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To: Conservative Coulter Fan
#53 Perhaps you should have read the first paragraph . . .

#55 You should have read my remarks before skipping to the comments . . .

#57 Earlier in Federalist No. 41, Madison grouped the powers granted the federal government into six "classes" . . .

Please feel free to provide the words of Hamilton that contradict Madison on the General Welfare Clause. Yes, we're told he advocated a strong centralized government, but such a viewpoint is one thing and the law (Constitution) is quite another. Hamilton authored most of the Federalist Papers and I'm not aware of him ever differing with Madison on the General Welfare Clause.

Thank you for your kind comments and assumptions.

The Federalist Papers were written, for what purpose? Do you suppose they might have had the same partisan purpose, though in opposition, as Richard Henry Lee’s The Letters from the Federal Farmer? What role did The Federalist Papers play, for instance, in drafting and passing The Judiciary Act of 1789?

Where in The Federalist Papers did Publius support Hamilton’s constitutional test for a proposed act of Congress? This test:

“If the end be clearly comprehended within any of the specified powers, and if the measure have an obvious relation to that end, and is not forbidden by any particular provision of the Constitution, it may safely be deemed to come within the compass of the national authority.”

None of us can defy the importance of The Federalist Papers as informing historical documents and, collectively, as a treatise on the U.S. Constitution. But, as Hamilton demonstrated, they were not binding, even then, beyond their intended partisan purpose.

Alexander Hamilton would whisper into your ear: “Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.”
 

84 posted on 01/20/2005 12:59:29 PM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse
Alexander Hamilton would whisper into your ear: “Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1.”

Which of Hamilton's Geneneral Interests do you think SS would have fallen - Learning, Manufacturing, Agriculture, or Commerce?

85 posted on 01/20/2005 2:38:46 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Racehorse
Hamilton: If the end be clearly comprehended within any of the specified powers, and if the measure have an obvious relation to that end, and is not forbidden by any particular provision of the Constitution, it may safely be deemed to come within the compass of the national authority."

None of us can defy the importance of The Federalist Papers as informing historical documents and, collectively, as a treatise on the U.S. Constitution. But, as Hamilton demonstrated, they were not binding, even then, beyond their intended partisan purpose.

I underlined the qualifiers listed by Hamilton before a measure should be adopted by Congress. He is saying that there are limitations prescribed in the Constitution on congressional power.

Alexander Hamilton would whisper into your ear: "Article 1, Section 8, Clause 1."

If you are basing that on the Hamilton quote, then you completely missed his point about limitations.

94 posted on 01/20/2005 7:30:53 PM PST by Ken H
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