Posted on 01/19/2005 12:40:07 AM PST by Stoat
So, you are saying nothing, but are dragging a dispute from another thread over here? Is that right? Nice.
This post gets it pretty much exactly right -- clearly, concisely, and with heart. I guess the only thing I'd disagree with is the implication that civil disobedience wasn't justified during the civil rights movement. Freedom-lovers on the right know that when the government does things that are unjust, it's our job to take back our rights. (Hence the second amendment.) But otherwise, a truly terrific post.
Look, man -- I was willing to listen to your story until that final sentence: "maybe race does matter." Your proof? There's a civil war between Hutus and Tutsis, all black people, that has killed 800,000 people. I wonder how you explain the 24 million that Stalin killed, or the 14 million (is that the number?) that Hitler killed. To call your reasoning "selective" is far too kind. You were selective in a way clearly designed to support your pre-existing conclusion that -- though you don't mention it outright, it's clear it's what you mean -- black people are inherently more violent.
Exactly, that should be the official name for the holiday, watch the liberals go apoplectic.
Thank you very much for your kind, complimentary words, your perspectives and your insights.
I think that one thing which MAY be fuelling an unhappiness with King's civil disobedience with some is a needless tarnishing of it by others. What I'm referring to is that in regards to the specific events that King was involved with, there may well have been a number of times when civil disobedience was his only option; I grant you that. The plight of African-Americans during that time was a unique one that required unique measures to overcome.
Unfortunately, the successes of King's civil disobedience protests were watched closely by people all over the world, including all manner of raggedy, hippie, scummy, commie twits here in the USA whose "issues" and "grievances" were nowhere near as valid as those of the civil rights movement.. They saw that and thought "Wow! Instead of spending the time going through legal channels to get heard, all we have to do is take over the University administration building and trash it! We'll call it a 'sit - in' to align ourselves with legitimate civil rights grievances and we'll get our way. "
I don't know if this is what Dr. Masugi is referring to in his article; I wish that he had made that part more clear. But I suppose that throughout history, there are all sorts of examples of illegitimate people and groups trying to piggyback their 'causes' onto more legitimate movements which have shown success. Hopefully historians will endeavor to keep the civil rights struggles intellectually separate from others that occurred at the same time.
No, that's wrong. But what's it to you anyway? When did I bother you to get you in such a tizzy as this? What makes you the referee? I haven't bothered you in the least.
Real men don't whine.
You're right. That post was sick.
Real men don't whine.
It's an open forum.
"When did I bother you to get you in such a tizzy as this?"
Only one in a tizzy is you.
"What makes you the referee?"
I volunteered. No appointment. No pay.
"I haven't bothered you in the least."
Yes, you did. You were rude to a lady and hinted at worse.
"Real men don't whine."
This is too ironic and too funny for words. ROFLMAO
Bump to your righteous post.
Martin Luther King preached non-violence, individual responsibility and Christian compassion. His death opened the door for the Nation of Islam to further destroy the black family.
Cleveland? Los Angeles? Watts? look at the basketball game...are these things you are referencing?....your take...not mine...
"Cleveland? Los Angeles? Watts? look at the basketball game...are these things you are referencing?....your take...not mine..."
Seriously, if you were standing in front of me I'd slug you in the face. Probably because I'm black and therefore violent.
I can give you an address....publicly...
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