Posted on 01/18/2005 10:39:55 PM PST by neverdem
Summers has brought back ROTC, chased off the professional blacks in the Afro-Am Dept., and is now annoying the feminists. Not too shabby. A stroll through Memorial Hall will remind any conservative of the profound, and sobering, role Harvard has played on the front lines of American history. It's nice to see Larry taking a stand.
One university dean called the aftermath an "intellectual tsunami," and some Harvard alumnae said they would suspend donations to the university.
That cracks me up! Maybe they should look to history? Nahhhhh...... it's much easier to listen to NPR.
"I think they've provoked an intellectual tsunami," Dr. Denton said.
Not exactly. I'm somewhat dissappointed that none of these "intellectual" women are capable of countering with actual fact and reasoned debate.
""If you were a woman scientist and had two competing offers and knew that the president of Harvard didn't think that women scientists were as good as men, which one would you take?" said Mary C. Waters"
You would take Harvard for the 40% pay premium, and the prestige.....just like most guys would;)
"Among his hypotheses were that faculty positions at elite universities required more time and energy than married women with children were willing to accept, that innate sex differences might leave women less capable of succeeding at the most advanced mathematics and that discrimination may also play a role, participants said"
what century is this guy living in?
A Sociologist talking about science is pretty funny. Maybe the guy is onto something!
"Harvard alumnae "
Yeah, 2
:)
The witch hunt is on! Another moment I'm glad I decided to teach little kids and not in academia.
Me thinks the affirmative action beneficiary doth protests too much.
If you flip the scenario around:
1.) If you're a business owner, you're probably going to hire the one that's going to contribute most to your company.
2.) If you work for a big business or the gub'mint, you're going to hire the woman, regardless of actual benefit.
You're definitely onto something, but it usually depends on political persuasion.
It was only a few years ago that I took a Sosh class where the textbook described Karl Marx as a great Sociologist. The teacher didn't even seem to understand that there might be an opposing view.
Based on these facts alone, one can infer that the prevailing culture of Sociologists is
You pick.
Watch for the media to make this a liberal cause, like the NYT and women at Augusta National.
If I were female, and a scientist (What exactly is a "woman scientist", anyway?), I would assume that I had already learned to read, and to comprehend.
I therefore would know that Dr. Summers did not say "women scientists are not as good as men", and furthermore, I would want my science to stand on its own, without reference to what sex I was.
But that's just me.
They're all passing out, or throwing up...
I suddenly feel better about my niece (from a small Tennessee town) going to her second year at Harvard (pre-med). On another note, I believe Larry Summers and Ann Coulter are friends.
I am a female and a scientist (physics) who goes to school down the street from Harvard. The remarks wouldnt factor into my decision because just getting the offers proves him wrong and I (not my gender) earned it irregardless of what Larry Summers says.
I agree and think that women can talk about this rationally without storming out of rooms, becoming physically ill, and furthering stereotypes that women are irrational creatures. However, I was somewhat bothered by the implication that women arent as good at science and math but I agree that there are definitely biological differences that account for fewer female scientists. In my experience, Ive seen nothing to suggest that women arent as good at it just that they do not seem as interested. There's no question that biological differences account for personality differences and preferences that result in disparities in certain fields. For example, every social worker seems to be a woman. And only men except for me seem to be military and weapons analysts.
Here at MIT, most bio majors are women and most physics majors are men. Although bio is infinitely easier than physics, there are no differences in perfermances within majors across genders. There are so many more female biology majors than physical science because there's something nuturing about it that appeals to females. It's life science, a lot of girls want to be doctors, and you can research drugs and cures to help people. Not a lot of the girls seem interested in physics at all and ones that are very different from your average girl.
I'd be curious to know how much Miss Lavin has contributed to Harvard. Since this lady is about 50 and goes by "Ms," its safe to assume she is not married. (read: Lesbian)
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