Dr. Hopkins.
She looks like my uncle.
Posted on 01/18/2005 3:25:24 PM PST by neverdem
Here's some smelling salts, dear.
"Let's not forget that people used to say that women couldn't drive an automobile."
Prudence dictates that I refrain from comment about the abilities of women drivers.
So, how many NASCAR drivers are women? F1? Indy?
Ok, so there were one or two drag racers (but those don't count, drag racers are just adrenalin junkies, not drivers).
Women do abound in adrenalin junkie fields. Skydiving. Aerobatic pilots. etc.
I think the real difference is the difference in "interest" that women vs. men have in a particular subject. Math and science just usually aren't there for women.
And your point is...?
Dr. Hopkins.
She looks like my uncle.
Here's some smelling salts, dear. Perhaps a dose of Lydia Pinkham's will restore your fragile constitution.
It was once argued that women just couldn't bear the physical and mental strain of the professions, and here comes Dr. Hopkins to give credence to those long-discredited arguments.
Mr. Summers was quoting research studies with statistical data, while Miz Hopkins is working with her "feelings."
'Nuff said.
Dr. Denton.
My uncle is prettier than her.
I'm guessing big K.D. Lang fan.
Arf.
Yes, that really is her picture.
For a woman, Dr. Hopkins had quite a rational response to Larry's remarks.
Dr. Hopkins said, "I didn't disagree, but didn't like the way he presented that point because I like to work 80 hours a week, and I know a lot of women who work that hard."
Riiight. The "personal" is "political" -- ain't no one ever heard that dodge before... sheez. Or even better:
"I didn't disagree with what he said... I didn't like the way he said it!"
I'm working up to a puke here... :>
I saw Dr. Hopkins on tv this AM with Ms. Kouric. When asked if she would like to sit down and talk to the miscreant, she would not commit. This is maturity at the ivy league level-I won't talk to him because I'm mad at him-not until he apologizes (her exact words were she'd have to see a change in attitude). Sorry Dr. Hopkins, but women ARE different.
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Makes sense to me. Dr. Hopkins only helped to prove Dr. Summers' case that women may be innately different. Instead of staying to argue his points, she was overcome by emotion and left.
I don't get this. . . as a female engineer with degrees in math and physics. Is it because I went to parochial school that I never thought twice about my major course of study?
Or because I had four sisters and no brothers? Or because my father, an engineer, supported my endeavor?
I didn't read anything about aptitude in Summers' comments. He was talking about the innate differences in the sexes and how they approach things. There is a difference, and most teenage girls are not interested in math and science because the feeling STILL persists in young women that being 'brainy' is a turn off to guys. At that point in their lives, getting a date is more important than solving quadratic equations. Grown women who no longer feel that tug may not like it and disagree, but you can't avoid the facts.
There are more women in the math and science fields than over before, and there is not the continued harassment and discrimination that women encountered in the past. Sounds like some of the women at this conference just decided they were gonna get their pantyhose in a twist, and wouldn't be dissuaded.
Ahem...
"Speaking Truth to Power" is exactly what Dr Summers WAS doing. In Academia today, the feminists ARE the power
This is typical politicization of science - what you say will never get taken on its face, it's all about whether it measures with the sensibilities of the protected class.
MIT's self-flaggelating study of women in faculty wasn't taken too seriously by anyone except those who wanted it to be true. In fact, MIT's new president Susan Hockfield was apparently on a board at Yale that debunked (or at least cited concerns with) the study.
"Dr. Hopkins said, "I didn't disagree, but didn't like the way he presented that point because I like to work 80 hours a week, and I know a lot of women who work that hard."
How did Nixon get elected? I don't know a single person who voted for him!
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