Challenging preeminent authority (Blasphemous art at largest Episcopal cathedral)

Renew America ^ | January 17, 2005 | CJ DeStefano

[NYer]

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[NYer]

FYI Ping!

CJ DeStefano is an artist and art educator from New York. He has been in the education system for 15 years and has been married to artist Marie DeStefano for 11 years. A self-described ultraist, he has written to countless organizations, politicians, and celebrities in an unwavering attempt to alter what he sees as a narrow and self-aggrandizing world view.

[cherry]

Catholic bashing is allowed and encouraged......its the Mormons that you can't bash.......

[tjwmason]

I belive that S. John the Divine is also the place where they have a 'Christa', that is a depiction of the cruficixion with Our Lord as a woman.

[johniegrad]

Impotent clerical responses to these types of outrages will only push believers further and further away from the clerics and their churches. To allow this sort of display in this environment is sacrilegious.

[Kolokotronis]

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[Pyro7480]

"Sacrifice yourselves for sinners, and say many times, especially whenever you make some sacrifice: O Jesus, it is for love of You, for the conversion of sinners, and in reparation for the sins committed against the Immaculate Heart of Mary."

-The Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima, 13 July 1917

[NYer]

I belive that S. John the Divine is also the place where they have a 'Christa', that is a depiction of the cruficixion with Our Lord as a woman.

That's new! Never heard of this.

[nightdriver]

"How does the Episcopal Church expect its own members or others to have a semblance of respect, when it provides a forum for those that make profane use of our symbols?"

What do you expect when you have non-Christians in charge of your church?

I look for the Episcopal Church to start ordaining moslem imams into their clergy in the not-too-distant future.

Ecumenism, tolerance, and open-mindedness, you know.

[Semper Paratus]

I belive that S. John the Divine is also the place where they have a 'Christa'

Don't they also have a annual service for animals?

[AnAmericanMother]

It was back in the 80s, it was a temporary art exhibit, like this one. Made a big stink.

Stuff like this makes me more and more glad that my family shook the dust (detritus? decomposed matter?) of the Episcopal Church USA from our sandals and finally crossed over the Tiber. I am astonished that we waited as long as we did. Inertia, I suppose.

But it's not til you're outside that you can fully appreciate the insanity of that denomination.

[AnAmericanMother]

Hey, lots of people have an annual service for animals.

Our (very orthodox Catholic) church celebrates it on St. Francis's feast day in October. There is an outdoor rustic chapel on the church grounds, and the animals are blessed with holy water and appropriate prayers are said.

The Church has blessed crops and livestock throughout its history. Nothing particularly weird about that.

[trad_anglican]

That's new! Never heard of this.

Actually it's old news (if there is such a thing). I don't know whether it is there anymore, but it once hung in all its ... er ... glory.

[ZULU]

The Episcopal Church - at least those directing it - is no longer a traditional Christian Church in the sense that Episcopalians and Christians of the past would recognize it. The same may be said of the United Methodists and Presbyterians.

St. John the Divine has a long history of abberrant and bizaar behavior. They have a "Blesing of the Animals" ritual which includes Elephants and other strange beasts and a Winter Festival which is little short of neo-pagan.

If mainstream Christianity is not capapble of resurrecting its traditional moral base and jettisoning such odd and deviant beliefs such as oppositon to moral warfare, the right of the people to self-defense, the right of society to permanently rid itself of serial murderers, etc, the west will collapse like a ripe plum before the onslaught of militant Islam.

[Cultural Jihad]

A "Charch of England" apostasy BTTT.

[Mark in the Old South]

Re: "...many of us were sickened at the selection of works permitted to be displayed inside this holy place."

That was her first mistake, her class was in an Episcopalian Church, nothing holy about it.

As a recovering Episcopalian I can tell you the ECUSA is not even remotely Christian let alone holy.

[Mark in the Old South]

Correction she = he and her = his