[orionblamblam]

> That abiogenisis is possible. I say no way.

Why? When it's been done in the lab?

Scientists have created living polio virii out of non-living raw materials. Since scientists do not have access to magical, supernatural or god-like powers, that shows that life from lifelessness through entirely naturalistic means is possible.

Similarly, the Urey experiments showed how amino acids can be created in early-Earth conditions, and the Fox experiments showed how the same conditions can turn those same amino acids into something *arguably* alive.

This is not Darwinian evolution... it is just complex chemistry.

[carumba]

... it is just complex chemistry.
Scientist following a known sequence, working in a lab, manipulating base pairs, is not a good argument for abiogenisis. Sounds like creationism to me. The more complexity, the less likely it is that it would be a spontaneous thing. In my opinion it is the wrong paradigm.