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To: Sam the Sham; GVgirl

Somebody here doesn't know much about tool-and-die work.

Typically, a "tool-and-die" shop makes tools and dies. This is highly precise engineering, drafting, and machining work, and those who DO it have at least a 5-year training period before they obtain a journeyman's status. (BSME=4 years, Journeyman = 5 years, note well.)

SOME "tool-and-die" shops also stamp the metal or mold the plastics with the tools and dies they create.

It has been the sad experience of many tool/die/stamping and tool/die/molding shops in this area (Wisconsin) that when one 'offshores' the stamping work to PRChina, the tools/dies are very quickly copied by a PRChina pirate, who then offers the SAME PARTS to the end customer for 30% of the price the US shop is charging.


396 posted on 01/18/2005 2:03:48 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot

That's exactly correct - PRC spends very little of the production dollar (yuan) on R&D, others do that. They focus on copying and manufacturing. Any business that sends a part or parcel to China looking for a huge cut in production costs has just sent their idea to be covering the globe in 80% cost reduction. People (and businesses) are like water, they'll seek their own level. When people of few ethics deal with people of few ethics, well.....


402 posted on 01/18/2005 2:10:39 PM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: ninenot
the tools/dies are very quickly copied by a PRChina pirate, who then offers the SAME PARTS to the end customer for 30% of the price the US shop is charging.

Different trade, same story.

462 posted on 01/18/2005 8:07:21 PM PST by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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