MLK Day, 2005

Men's News Daily ^ | 17 January 2005 | Nicholas Stix

[Altamira]

" By the same token, you could hardly find a scholar at Harvard whose works weren't plagiarized to some degree. "

When you use others' materials and attribute the material to them, it's not plagiarism. I doubt very seriously you could find much plagiarism at all, at Harvard or anywhere. It's easy to spot, and the penalties are severe.

While I agree that MLK did some good things, I think that he does not deserve to be lionized the way he is today. And that's the point of the author of this article as well. I don't think it's fair to say that the author is pillorying MLK; he's just telling the truth. I think it takes a great deal of courage to tell the truth about a cultural hero like MLK; he was not the man that he or others made himself out to be.

Sidenote: The King family, with their millions, had the gall to request that I law firm where I used to be employed represent them on a pro bono basis. Pretty cheeky, if you ask me.

[GunnyHartman]

Sorry about that last post Moderator. Let me try again.

It would have been great if the heroic Jessie "Shakedown" Jackson would have saved Martin Luther King, Jr. from James Earl Jones. That's better, now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[Altamira]

er, that should be, "request that a law firm..."

I can spell, but my fingers can't!

[amosmoses]

What a crock! Public schools have been around a lot longer than you neo-con anti-school types. Try like a couple of centuries. I know many fine americans that teach in schools. They doing thae best they can with what thet have to work with. Its not the teachers, NEA, unions etc, its the little sh#t heads that so called parents send to school everyday thats causing the problem. Think you can solve that problem by setting up a voucher system? think again.

[Petronski]

This thread is pathetic. Sickening.

[Altamira]

" If you're so concerned about getting a federal holiday for George Washington, then go lobby for one."

Washington's birthday used to be a holiday. Then they consolidated it with another president's birthday (Lincoln's? Help me out here, folks...) and now they are collectively known as "President's Day."

[amosmoses]

Correction- They are doing the best they can with what they have.

[bencarter]

yeah, poverty kills. I just said there's more work to be done. But at least now we have a system where the chance of some black child making it is better that it was before the civil rights movement.

[hushpad]

I am glad white western christians discovered and colonized America before somebody else did. Buts thats just me.

Me too.

BTW, I do not see where Columbus could be considered a mass murderer without revisionist History.

[Tweaker]

"His due is the fact that he was the leader in the civil rights movement, which to this day remains one of the greatest movements in the history of the United States."

What it is and what it was are 180* apart.
As for his leadership, he can be lumped into the same category as Jackson and sharpton. Profiteers.
The only way to garner respect and acceptance is by doing those things which gain you respect and acceptance. Ask Dr. Rice, she knows.

"Do you agree that the civil rights movement was a just and moral movement?"

As a whole, no. Everyone has equal opportunity, protection and civil liberties., If you don't take advantage of the opportunity it doesn't make you oppressed, it makes you a ward of the State, which is exactly what mlk, jfk,lbj and the liberals want the blacks to be.

"Do you agree that MLK was its primary spokesperson, and easily its most memorable?"

Wiiliam Shatner is the spokesman for Priceline.com and the same could be said about him.

Being a memorable spokesman does not make one a hero, or right. King is what he his, let's not make him something grand.

[peacebaby]

...and that's IF - IF - the Democrats will keep their hands off the child and not make him dependent.

[Malesherbes]

Wow, you seem to have taken it personally. I wasn't referring to you; I was referring to Jackson and Sharpton. As for George Washington, he had a federal holiday for most of my life and his accomplishments stand with or without one.

[Red Phillips]

You are making a lot of assumptions. And blatantly wrong ones. I have been called many things on this forum, but never before have I been called a neo-con. That is laughable. Go to some of the Confederate threads or the antiwar threads and see what I have contributed before. I am anything but a neo-con. I am a paleo to the core. And what did I say that makes you think I support vouchers? I do not. Vouchers are just another scheme to redistribute the wealth. What I said is there should be no public financing of education, period. The separation of education and state, if you will. Public (government) education is collectivist to the core and is illegitimate. Take a little time to read before you fire off your posts.

[Tweaker]

"So what were you doing while citizens were being oppressed during Jim Crow?"

Not that your question is germane, but...
I hadn't been born. But since you asked, what were you doing?

Where is your name written as a hero of the movement, or even mentioned as a participant. Do you think all white people who didn't march against Jim Crow are not really people. That white people didn't live through those times, but somehow appeared from nowhere once the battle had been fought? Isn't enough that whites can accept blacks because of who they are, not what they are?(sounds familiar somehow)Must all whites be punished and taxed and trodden upon simply because they are white and do not believe the "party line".(sounds familiar also) Excuse me while I refuse to bend over backwards to not appear racist. You feel free to bend as far as you like though, really, it's OK.

[cyborg]

You're young so what's with the chip on your shoulder? Bitterness is an ugly thing.

[amosmoses]

Ok. Point taken. But you do recognize public education has been around a long time. I think Thomas Jefferson was a strong supporter because of his belief in an educated electorate. A more important concern than just having private education as a matter of principle.

[richmwill]

Let the man have his day. He did give a great speech, and helped his people achieve some measure of equality in those days- would some of you on this thread prefer the "White/Colored" drinking fountains come back?