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To: webstersII

Isaiah 53:5 is developed more fully in 1 Peter 2:24.

The healing described in Isaiah 53:5 is spiritual healing of the soul from sin.

Christ's healing ministry was an authentication of his identity and mission as Messiah - (Lk. 7:19-23; Jn 5:36; 6:14; 7:31; 9:30-32; 10:37-38; 11:42; 14:10-11; 15:24; 20:30-31; Acts 2:22).

So too, the healing ministry of the Apostles was in order to authenticate their message prior to the finalization of the New Testament Canon and the final destruction of the Old Covenant in AD 70 - (2 Cor. 12:12; Acts 2:43; 3:1-8; 4:33; 5:12; 9:36-42; 19:10-12; 28:8-9).

Even in the Apostolic era, not all Christians had the 'gift of healing' or 'gift of miracles'. For instance, when Dorcas died, Christians called in the Apostle Peter from another town and he, an Apostle, raised her from the dead - Acts 9:36-42. When the apostles died, the sign gifts ceased.

A handy article by John MacArthur can be found below:
http://www.biblebb.com/files/MAC/sg1858.htm


232 posted on 01/18/2005 1:01:24 PM PST by PresbyRev
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To: PresbyRev
When the apostles died, the sign gifts ceased.

Then God stopped being God.

236 posted on 01/18/2005 1:11:24 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PresbyRev
When the apostles died, the sign gifts ceased.

Then God stopped being God when the last of the apostles died. If you think that the New Testament is for the apostles only then what hope do you have? You can't discard parts of it and accept others. It is either for today or it isn't. All of it.

237 posted on 01/18/2005 1:13:01 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PresbyRev
Isaiah 53:5 is developed more fully in 1 Peter 2:24.

The healing described in Isaiah 53:5 is spiritual healing of the soul from sin.

Christ's healing ministry was an authentication of his identity and mission as Messiah - (Lk. 7:19-23; Jn 5:36; 6:14; 7:31; 9:30-32; 10:37-38; 11:42; 14:10-11; 15:24; 20:30-31; Acts 2:22).

So too, the healing ministry of the Apostles was in order to authenticate their message prior to the finalization of the New Testament Canon and the final destruction of the Old Covenant in AD 70 - (2 Cor. 12:12; Acts 2:43; 3:1-8; 4:33; 5:12; 9:36-42; 19:10-12; 28:8-9).

Even in the Apostolic era, not all Christians had the 'gift of healing' or 'gift of miracles'. For instance, when Dorcas died, Christians called in the Apostle Peter from another town and he, an Apostle, raised her from the dead - Acts 9:36-42. When the apostles died, the sign gifts ceased.



I figured this is the theology I was hearing from you. I don't want to be rude, honest I don't, but that is the theology of the faithless!
I take by your answer that you do not lay your hands on the sick and believe Christ has healed them...and thus they are not healed and your theology is confirmed to you -sad. I am sorry but it is as if we read two different bibles and you have created your own little God that no longer will move in miracles but leaves His people to suffer.

I have seen many healed, I have been healed and have laid hands on others and have seen them healed. I have also seen people who were not healed. God does heal today and His commands and promises are as real today as yesterday.

I can see from your words that you are fully indoctrinated in this the gifts stuff no longer exist and know from experience that there is probably nothing I can say that change your mind and doctrine.

Maybe if you put your doctrine of all this was yesterday and all you have been taught on the shelf and just had a fresh look at the word with the attitude if "I just want the truth" and asked God to give the truth either way in this......

God Bless you Rev...hope you have a fresh look at God and His word. As for me , God commanded me to lay hands on the sick and to have faith in this and I will.
241 posted on 01/18/2005 5:29:43 PM PST by free_life
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