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To: LS

"That's why so many immigrants are streaming to live there."
--People are streaming to your country from all over the world and India is no exception. People go in the direction of the buck. US has the buck. What has that got to do with anything?

Yes GB elected a Jew.... So whats your point?

My post was in relation to your misinformed comment about "Sutee". In todays India (and I dont know how much you know about todays India) anybody even talking about legalising "sutee" would be considered a lunatic.

You shouldnt always rely on your western media which only dishes out news about castism and poverty. Those kind of news sell like hot cakes in your country so those are the only news you get to hear.

If you choose to have a look, you will find plenty of threads at FR about how much India is progressing. This dosent mean we are there yet. We know we have a long way to go but women empowerment is a reality in todays India. Many of the knowledgeable people from your country who have visited India in the past have endorsed this fact. If you want to get some real info about India's progress as against the biased stereotype you would get from your media, try and find out for yourself about the percentage of women working in India's Silicon Valley. You will get an idea about the progress we have made. Today we are the fastest rising economy in the world, come to think of it not so long ago we were ranked alongside Ethiopia.


198 posted on 01/18/2005 5:16:30 AM PST by Gengis Khan ("There is no glory in incomplete action." -- Gengis Khan)
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To: Gengis Khan

Benny Hinn's Duplicity
The following report is from Christianity Today, Oct. 5, 1992:





Television preacher Benny Hinn, whose sales in Christian bookstores in the last year-and-a-half have exceeded those of James Dobson and Charles Swindoll combined, told CT last September that he would submit to the counsel and constructive criticism of others (Christianity Today, Oct. 28, 1991, p. 44).

But Hinn's rhetoric since then has raised questions in some people's minds about his sincerity. For instance: "Now I'm pointing my finger with the mighty power of God on me. ...You hear this. There are men and women in Southern California attacking me. I will tell you under the anointing now, you'll reap it in your children. You'll never win. ...And you children will suffer. You're attacking me on the radio every night; you'll pay, and your children will. Hear this from the lips of God's servant. You are in danger. Repent, or God Almighty will move his hand. ..." That is what Hinn told an audience on August 7 at Melodyland Christian Center in Southern California.

In a recent interview with CT, Hinn, whose books Good Morning, Holy Spirit and The Anointing have sold 1.7 million copies combined, said he stands behind the Melodylaiid statement. "The Bible warns us clearly that we must not attack men of God no matter how sinful they may have become or wicked in our eyes," Hinn said. ...

Hinn acknowledged that the radio show he alluded to during the Melodyland talk was the Irvine, California-based broadcast of Christian Research Institute (CRI). ...

Representatives of CRI and other evangelical apologetics ministries say they have noticed a pattern of Hinn telling people behind the scenes that he has changed, but then going on as before. Said G. Richard Fisher, who writes for the newsletter of the St. Louis-based ministry Personal Freedom Outreach (PFO), "When Benny Hinn speaks, he speaks for effect. He tells people what he thinks they want to hear."

Indeed, for those who have been keeping an eye on him, Hinn has proven to be difficult to pin down. Not long after telling Christiaiiity Today that the "faith message" (as articulated by such teachers as Kenneth Copeland) does not "add up," Hinn said that speaking out against Copeland was tantamount to "attacking the very presence of God." Also, though affirming the concept of a triune God, he continues to maintain that the Holy Spirit has a "spirit-body."

In last year's interview with CT, Hinn said he would no longer use the term revelation knowledge in reference to some of his teachings because of the implication that those teachings were directly from God and thus infallible. While he has shunned the term revelation knowledge, just a.few months ago on TV Hinn said that the Holy Spirit was at that moment teaching him that God originally designed women to give birth out of their sides.

In a recent conversation with Hinn, Hanegraaff [Hank Hanegraaff, president of CRI] questioned him about that episode. (Hinn had initiated the contact after learning that he was to be featured prominently in Hanegraaff s [forthcoming] book.) According to Hanegraaff, Hinn several times denied to him having made the statement about women and birth. Hanegraaff said he finally told Hinn where he could find the disputed remark on the videotaped sermon. Hinn later acknowledged making the statement, calling it "dumb." Hanegraaff said that when he reminded Hinn that he had credited the Holy Spirit with the teaching, the evangelist chuckled and said he had actually picked up the teaching from the (1963) Dake's Annotated Reference Bible.

But those disturbed by Hinn's growing influence say this is no chuckling matter. They note that Hinn has achieved popularity largely through his oral and written accounts of frequent intense, and direct interaction with the supernatural. ...

Critics have also questioned Hinn's account of his testimony. Hinn says he was miraculously cured of stuttering, but PFO claims it has talked to several people from Hinn's youth who do not recall him stuttering. And in an article in PFO's next newsletter, Fisher challenges Hinn's claim that his father was the mayor of Jaffa, Israel. Hinn acknowledges that his father did not have the title of mayor, but says he performed the functions of mayor. Fisher says Hinn's father, who is now deceased, was "a clerk in an Arab labor office" (Christianity Today, Oct. 5, 1992).






199 posted on 01/18/2005 5:24:41 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Why do Red States have Blue Senators?)
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To: Gengis Khan
1) I never said India was not making progress. Quite the contrary, the fact that some Americans are concerned about Indian computer programmers taking their jobs indicates a level of technical sophistication.

2) At last glance, Ireland was well ahead of Indian in rate of growth. That doesn't diminish India's growth, but don't overstate it.

3) Fine. If my source was outdated, I stand corrected. But it was a western reporter in India in the late 1990s reporting this.

4) People do not just go where there is money, but where there is opportunity and liberty. Let me know when there is mass immigration into India, even from her far more backward neighbors.

220 posted on 01/18/2005 9:52:55 AM PST by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news (there is no c in Amtrak and no truth in MSM news))
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