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Democrats need Southern strategy
The State (South Carolina) ^ | Sun, Jan. 16, 2005 | LEE BANDY

Posted on 01/16/2005 2:47:19 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: Sonny M

Rove was sweating bullets over Ohio, as was I. It was a very near thing. And for the first time in my memory, maybe for the first time ever, Ohio voted more Dem than the nation as a whole. It may well become a habit given the lay of the land.


21 posted on 01/16/2005 3:44:19 PM PST by Torie
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To: LdSentinal
[In 1992, with Bill Clinton heading the ticket, Democrats were competitive in the South. Running a centrist campaign, Clinton won five Southern states.]

It would seem that the little General, Ross Perot had something to do with the Clinton win.

Godspeed, The Dilg
22 posted on 01/16/2005 3:45:37 PM PST by thedilg
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To: Non-Sequitur

heres an Southern strategy for them. Evacuate Northward with all due haste.


23 posted on 01/16/2005 3:47:29 PM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Torie
Oh I know Ohio underperformed. It did for several reasons that will not exist in 2008, namely the poor economy and Governor Bob Taft.

Bob Taft and the tax raising Ohio Republicans cost two people I know seats in the state Assembly they were running to replace term limited Republican assemblymen.

The state's commie belt (Cuyahoga, Summit, Lucas, and Mahoning counties) is continuing to lose population while southern Ohio (Republican) holds its own or grows. The GOP trend in Ohio, despite the 2004 blip is near irreversable as the state Dem party is dead.

24 posted on 01/16/2005 3:48:29 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Quote the DUmmie, we got Roved)
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To: anniegetyourgun

Did you know Zell Miller is running for NRA Board of Directors?


25 posted on 01/16/2005 3:52:55 PM PST by donozark
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To: nickcarraway

Didn't Algore have one ?


26 posted on 01/16/2005 3:53:17 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: BigCinBigD
heres an Southern strategy for them. Evacuate Northward with all due haste.

And don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.

27 posted on 01/16/2005 3:54:12 PM PST by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Look at Hamilton and Franklin Counties and get back to me. One needs to look at metro areas as a whole. Sure the inner city counties are losing population (except Franklin County), but the Dem percentages go up there in tandem, because some of the loss is voters moving to suburban counties. Metro Columbus is trending Dem, and is the fastest growing metro area in the state, and metro Cincinnati in Oho is a bit too, as some of the GOP voters are drained off into Kentucky, and now, incipiently, Indiana (Dearborn County).
28 posted on 01/16/2005 3:55:27 PM PST by Torie
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To: nickcarraway

I thought the Dims had a southern strategy: to breed and import non-hispanic Whites into the minority?


29 posted on 01/16/2005 3:57:58 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Torie

Check out the 2002 election results for all the statewide offices. Even the unpolpular governor won big.

Unless the National Democrat Party comes in and rebuilds the Ohio Democrat Party, a party that can't raise money or win statewide races, they will continue to be the party deeply in the minority as they have been since 1994.


30 posted on 01/16/2005 4:00:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Quote the DUmmie, we got Roved)
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To: nickcarraway

They need a strategy that is effective outside about 20 large cities.


31 posted on 01/16/2005 4:01:15 PM PST by meyer (Our greatest opponent is a candidate called Complacency.)
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To: Dog Gone

The South is not fooled by the lies, deceptions and subterfuge any longer. We all did good on election day we kept a Great President in office. Thank all you people in the North, South and other states for our victory. "We Dare Defend Our Rights." NSNR


32 posted on 01/16/2005 4:04:05 PM PST by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: donozark

COOL! No, I didn't know that, dono....thanks for the update!


33 posted on 01/16/2005 4:05:10 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Tom Selleck as well. But that's "off-topic."


34 posted on 01/16/2005 4:09:31 PM PST by donozark
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To: nickcarraway

Maybe if the wacked out left side of these Dems would stop trying to tear down and destroy Southern heritage, and all things Confederate, maybe they'd have a chance.
"I wish I were in Dixie"


35 posted on 01/16/2005 4:14:06 PM PST by Isabelle
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To: nickcarraway

"We Democrats aren't writing off the South even though they are a bunch of ignorant hayseed rubes from Jesusland who are too stupid to abort their own children and marry people of their own gender. We compassionate Democrats will tell them how to live thier lives so they won't have to think."


36 posted on 01/16/2005 4:20:03 PM PST by Tall_Texan (Let's REALLY Split The Country! (http://righteverytime3.blogspot.com))
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To: nickcarraway

The Dems need a comprehensive overhaul of the same nature as the GOP undertook after Senator Goldwater took a thrashing from LBJ in 1964. It took the GOP until the mid-80's to clarify the consistency of a recurrent message that has led to their contemporary domination of the two elected branches and the dominant philosophy of the judiciary. It would be a serious matter for the present GOP policy group to adopt a sense of hubris that believes the current condition will continue without change that sees the Dems back in a majority position. History is an infallable window into the future and no party has ever dominated American politics longer than the 1932 - 1968 period.


37 posted on 01/16/2005 4:20:03 PM PST by middie
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To: dubyaismypresident

Except when someone as loveable as Kerry runs I guess. We are talking about presidential elections here aren't we? I don't know what is in the water in Ohio, but Ohio has always had a very superior GOP organization since rocks cooled. Just ask McKinley. But these days, organization in presidential elections is of marginal benefit. Kerry made up his own organization in any event, and so will the DNC in every presidential election hence.


38 posted on 01/16/2005 4:20:51 PM PST by Torie
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To: nickcarraway
"In 1992, with Bill Clinton heading the ticket, Democrats were competitive in the South. Running a centrist campaign, Clinton won five Southern states. “Their best hope is to split the South and deny Republicans a total sweep of the region,” said Emory University political science professor Merle Black."

NOT without another Ross Perot, Merllllle. How much are they payin' ya at Emory "Carter Country" U. for such a short memory?

39 posted on 01/16/2005 4:25:23 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: Torie

Rove's Ohio playbook will work just as well in '08.


40 posted on 01/16/2005 4:27:56 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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