Tension between Copts, Muslims also immigrated

The Star-Ledger ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | JEFF DIAMANT and Paul Nelson

[nickcarraway]

In Egypt, they lived as a Christian religious minority in a predominately Muslim country.

That, along with economic troubles in Egypt, is what led many Coptic Christians to immigrate over the last 40 years to the United States, where several hundred thousand now live, mostly in New Jersey, New York and California.

[monkeywrench]

One of the evil policies of the Egyptian government is the persecution of Egyptian
Christians at home and abroad, especially in the U.S. How? By unleashing the Egyptian
Intelligence Agency to do its evil work inside and outside the country. http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/000459.php Another interesting read on this.

[Betaille]

Muslims chase the minorities they oppress(copts, jews) to the United States. Stop Islamic fifth column immigration now.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

CAIR issues a news release every time some muslim bitches that he was given a speeding ticket unfairly. The muslims are the source of pain and strife wherever they go while claiming to be victims. They are disgusting people and their gutter "religion" sucks.

[penelopesire]

From the article:

"...I don't think that Coptic people in the U.S. suffer from anyone," said Mamdouh Abdelsayed, a Coptic Christian who lives in Kearny. "We are not a minority anymore as we are in Egypt. ... Dealing with Muslim people, we don't have problems. I'm doing my job, they're doing their job."

yeah right...until friday night when 4 Copts were killed by Muslims.

[Ciexyz]

My question about that family of four Christian Copts killed in NJ, how did the Muslims know it was the father who was posting on the religious message board, and how did they trace him offline to his home?

[proxy_user]

Well, obviously, he was not big on proxies, nymservers, Mixmaster, and that kind of thing.

[valkyrieanne]

One has to wonder why they've all moved to these highly liberal, radically anti-gun states. I personally would feel a lot safer from Muslim persecutors in someplace like rural MO, where you can arm yourselves to the teeth, and there's no love lost for Islamic radicals.

[Arpege92]

"how did the Muslims know it was the father who was posting on the religious message board, and how did they trace him offline to his home?"

Frightening isn't it?

[kittymyrib]

Doesn't it just warm the cockles of your heart to know that billions of our tax dollars go to the cesspool called Egypt every year as a never-ending payoff for signing their peace treaty with Israel during the Carter debacle? We need to cut off all foreign aid to any country that kills Christians. Otherwise, we are aiding and abetting these persecutions.

[Lion in Winter]

BTTT

[womcg]

From what I read in the articles, the local Egyptian expat community, both Islamic and Coptic, had begun a multi-faith family-center type organization. If the victim family had belonged, or had been on a list furnished by Egyptian Embassy, that is one way.Another would have been through the teenagers school. If Islamic motives are the cause, I suspect the victim spoke out in more ways than just in a chat room.

[Ciexyz]

As long as the Muslims can't bribe the Internet service to get someone's name from a message board. That would be frightening.

[womcg]

I was a cop for a lot of years. There ain't no such thing as "secure" information when money,or sex, is involved. That's the bad news, ..the worst news is that loyalty to Islam trumps the top two. Don't bet the farm that there is any such thing as "secure" info on the internet.

[Lion in Winter]

If this family was as anti-islamic as I think.... not that there is anything wrong with that considering the persecution in Egypt.... I wonder if they would have been involved with ANY muslims on a personal level.

Look, I knew some really nice folks from another country many years ago... they were all immigrants and of the same religion, but due to some things that happened during WWII and after, these two groups of immigrants were not moving in the same social circles... if you know what I mean.

Maybe the same feelings that were developed in the old country did not end at the USA border and these poor Copts died as a result.

[paltalk user]

I Believe Hossam Armanious, 47 used paltalk to the extent that he subscribed to paltalk with his credit card and made his name Blue. Some one working in Paltalk A Co Admin Muslim No dought gave the details to a follow Muslim to asseasenat Hossam Armanious And His FAMILY. To Subscribe to Paltalk Plus You Need to Give in your Credit card details address and phone number then the co admins turn the nick name you use Blue. Many Working For Paltalk Are Muslims And this Has Got to Be Investigated.

[Isabelle]

Islam, Allah has no religious value at all. It is the filth of Satan. America is a wonderful country built, in part, for religious freedoms, but should not accept these filthy, murdering, anti Christ's into our borders.

[womcg]

Sure. I can think of Greeks, Yugos, French expats, and lots of others that may share a language and religion, but WWII, ethnic strife, etc, came with them to States. However, in the Arab/Islamic world ( and Egypt qualifies), there seems to be a real cultural/social/religious drive to go after non-Muslim groups who live within the Arab/Islamic world. Nearly like "The lived under us for centuries,..they are ours,..and we can kill them if we want."
If Islam is at the root of this crime, I would guess that the victim took to heart the 1st. Amendmant, and the killers want the Constitution replaced with Islamic law.

[Ciexyz]

Don't bet the farm that there is any such thing as "secure" info on the Internet.

Hmm, my next question is, how secure are our identities on FR? Just wondering.

[nmh]

So is the slaying related?

Slaying of 4 may be tied to (Islamic) religious extremism (NJ Christian family had throats slit)
Bergen Record ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2005 | TOM TRONCONE


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