[Sam Cree]

I agree with the guy that both parties are big government parties, that is, they are parties that "mean to govern," rather than parties that would protect our freedom and liberty, but otherwise leave us alone, as our founding fathers intended.

I even agree that Bush is something of a rationalist, which puts him left of center in my book.

But there are important differences between Bush and the Republicans and the Dems. Bush and most Republicans believe in free enterprise, capitalism, lower taxes, patriotism and family values; those things most Dems oppose these days.

I'm not up to speed on the Constitution Pary, but are they not the remnants of the John Birch Society or some other equally discredited organization?

[Mount Athos]

John Birch Society is not discredited.

[rdb3]

I'm not up to speed on the Constitution Pary, but are they not the remnants of the John Birch Society or some other equally discredited organization?

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May as well be, seeing as how both are entirely worthless.

[NorCalRepub]

Though I would hardly say Bush is "left of center" he does seem to appease at times and become hard nosed at times. Like that insane farm bill and IMHO the Medicare drug bill was a sham........but on terrorists he is a hard nosed no nonsense guy......better than any Dem but he confuses me sometimes...