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To: Stoat

Yeah, but at least people don't get sucked out of the window if a bullet pierces a Greyhound window

Oh wait, I was thinking of a James Bond movie.

Anyway, I'm pretty much against anyone but an air marshall having guns on a plane. I mean, hell, everyone's already dealing with fearing terrorists/crappy peanuts/crying babies/smelly toilets/coffee nerves on the flight. It'd be mere seconds before someone got killed for putting their seat too far back. Heh.


60 posted on 01/15/2005 5:07:32 AM PST by batenkaitos
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To: batenkaitos
Yeah, but at least people don't get sucked out of the window if a bullet pierces a Greyhound window

Oh wait, I was thinking of a James Bond movie.

Yes, and getting sucked out of an airplane window in the fashion of Bloefeld (?) is not possible.  The pressures being dealt with are not so great as to do that.

Anyway, I'm pretty much against anyone but an air marshall having guns on a plane.

When they will guarantee me that there will be multiple, highly-trained air marshals on every single domestic and international flight then I will begin to agree.  I would suggest, however, that an important point is being overlooked in that the element of 'not knowing' whether people around you are armed is an essential element in crime control.  Notice how in every country and city that outlaws legal gun ownership, violent crime skyrockets.  That's because criminals tend to gravitate toward easy targets whom they know cannot fight back.

I mean, hell, everyone's already dealing with fearing terrorists/crappy peanuts/crying babies/smelly toilets/coffee nerves on the flight. It'd be mere seconds before someone got killed for putting their seat too far back. Heh.

A theme of the trigger-happy eager-to-shoot-and-kill civilian gun owner runs throughout your posts....a theme that I have never encountered in reality; a reality that has had me surrounded by legal gun owners since birth.

69 posted on 01/15/2005 5:24:28 AM PST by Stoat
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To: batenkaitos
Yeah, but at least people don't get sucked out of the window if a bullet pierces a Greyhound window.

Apparently you missed the "Mythbusters" episode where the show's hosts attempted to induce explosive decompression with gunfire by pressurizing an airplane so that the difference between air pressures was the same as an airplane at altitude and firing various weapons through both windows and the fuselage (firearms failed to do so; the holes produced were too small).

71 posted on 01/15/2005 5:27:37 AM PST by steveegg (The secret goal of lieberals - to ensure that no future generation can possibly equal theirs.)
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To: batenkaitos
*** It'd be mere seconds before someone got killed for putting their seat too far back. ***

IMO that should be a Capital Offense anyway.

79 posted on 01/15/2005 5:41:42 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: batenkaitos
Anyway, I'm pretty much against anyone but an air marshall having guns on a plane

Perhaps you are not familiar with various state concealed carry laws here in America. Americans who are serious about gun ownership and will go through the effort to get the carry permit (background check required) is a law abiding citizen. Those folks also take the responsibility of gun ownership seriously. Those are exactly the people who should be allowed to be armed on an airplane, in addition to the air marshalls.

167 posted on 01/15/2005 10:21:55 AM PST by Oorang (Decafalon: The grueling event of getting through the day consuming things that are good for you)
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