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Submarine Crash Shows Navy Had Gaps in Mapping System
NY Times ^ | January 15, 2005 | CHRISTOPHER DREW

Posted on 01/14/2005 8:30:19 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
heh!

Yeah we probably scared him off when the Viking Kitties piled on to him on his thread.


221 posted on 01/28/2005 1:16:30 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Maybe his head was so empty it just imploded and no one noticed.


222 posted on 01/28/2005 1:18:03 PM PST by dirtboy (To make a pearl, you must first irritate an oyster)
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To: drt1

I believe its the $'s, and prioritys..which have now been reshuffled.


223 posted on 01/28/2005 1:22:36 PM PST by Uriah
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To: Tommyjo

Looks like the nose is made of fiberglass. Not surprising it would shatter and make the damage look worse than it is.


224 posted on 01/28/2005 2:01:04 PM PST by RightWhale (Please correct if cosmic balance requires.)
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To: Boot Hill
we can produce a fleet of very small solar powered, UAV's (Unmanned Autonomous Vessel), with on-board computer control, linked to GPS, to navigate them throughout the world's oceans.

Sounds good in theory, but what about area's of the oceans populated by pirate types or other mischivous types that would interfere with or outright steal the UAV's?

225 posted on 01/28/2005 2:27:28 PM PST by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: AFreeBird
"what about area's of the oceans populated by pirate types or other mischivous types that would interfere with or outright steal the UAV's?"

You plan at the outset for a certain percentage of loss of UAV due to storm, malfunction and mischief. I could also envision certain "self protection" features built into craft entering hostile waters.

--Boot Hill

226 posted on 01/28/2005 4:52:01 PM PST by Boot Hill (How do you verbalize a noun?)
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To: JimRed

"the Cliton administration said so."

Well, alrighty then. :-)


227 posted on 01/28/2005 5:00:31 PM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: Strategerist

RADAR doesn't work underwater


228 posted on 01/29/2005 2:04:38 AM PST by passingthought
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To: drt1

During WW2 submarines could not survive as deep as 500 ft. Also unless you've been there(onboard at sea) its hard to understand how they operate.


229 posted on 01/29/2005 8:48:22 AM PST by whobedo (Been there done that!)
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To: ASOC
Who sponsored the bill to eliminate the NOAA Officer Corps? I do not believe it was Gore. He may have supported it, either way why maintain an antiquity of the frontier.
We no longer need to have a military type of organization to perform hydrographic surveys (or any other survey). The NOAA Officer Corps is the remnants of a time when surveying required long periods away from civilization. The methods of transportation available now preclude the necessity of long postings to remote sites that needed to have an officer in charge.
230 posted on 01/29/2005 4:47:17 PM PST by rain in the air
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To: rain in the air

I won't argue that the NOAA department is a bit bloated.

In that same vein though -

Why use the USAF to hunt hurricanes?

Why use the Public Health Service in Zone 4 biohazard events?

Why have Army EOD support local Police?

FWIW, all NOAA officers hold reserve commissions in the world's most advanced NAVY, ours - to be used as navigators and mapmakers in wartime.

One need only look at the fracas in the Falklands to see why we still need these folks. Even more recent was their work in the littoral areas of Iraq.

BTW - the Surgeon General is a General.


231 posted on 01/29/2005 5:23:49 PM PST by ASOC (Land of the Free, owing to the Brave)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

But former submarine captains said Navy investigators were likely to examine whether it had been prudent to travel at such a high speed, 30 knots, given the age and spottiness of the information."

High speed transits should not be that uncommon in the wide open Pacific Ocean.

What they should (and probably will) do is ask SUBPAC why they plotted an unrestricted SUBNOTE through this area. Why was the SOA so fast that the boat had to go to a flank bell to get back on PIM?

SUBPAC does not own the water east of the International dateline. That responsibility belongs to COMSUBGRU 7 in Yokosuka Japan. SUBPAC only monitors those subnotes. Unrestricted subnotes are generally given for maximum operational flexibility. Given the blatantly appearant high SOA during the transit this incident may make the 7th Fleet look at building in more time for submerged transits between required engagements (I dont know, maybe the San Fran was broken down and had to leave port late).



232 posted on 01/31/2005 8:02:09 PM PST by Lo-Fi
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To: BIGLOOK

it didn't help having a eletronics tech 90 day wonder as co of a spy ship. (not that i'm knocking et's, but this was not the correct posting for a spy ship commander)and he plodded along for a long time after he knew he was spotted, should have run for open sea. the Russian "trawler" off Guam did. and no, i'm not a ex-sub man, i kept turning the sub job down because i like my liberty.


233 posted on 04/23/2005 8:59:53 AM PDT by CYN3
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To: CYN3

that was in reply to the Pueblo thread...


234 posted on 04/23/2005 9:05:03 AM PDT by CYN3
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To: ourusa

ping


235 posted on 11/06/2007 8:37:08 AM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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