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European Craft on Saturn Moon Finds Tantalizing Signs of Liquid
NY Times ^ | January 15, 2005 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

Posted on 01/14/2005 7:16:29 PM PST by neverdem

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To: nuke rocketeer

I guess smell depends on what kind of methane you're talking about and who or what's producing it.


21 posted on 01/14/2005 8:16:49 PM PST by dc-zoo
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To: waynebobo

Welcome to FR


22 posted on 01/14/2005 8:16:51 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Congressman Billybob; nuke rocketeer
I thought methane was a biologic product.

Not necessarily. On Earth methane does persist in the atmosphere due to the oxidizing atmosphere. So any methane in the Earth's atmosphere is fairly recent (less than a few thousand years) and most likely of biological origin. The atmosphere of Titan is reducing, so the methane probably dates to the formation of the solar system 4.5 billion year ago. It is thought that the Earth originally had a reducing atmosphere, but photosynthetic algae over billions of years gradually released enough oxygen to cause it to be oxidizing.

23 posted on 01/14/2005 8:17:15 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Dan Rather's got to go!)
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To: Texas Eagle
Oh, great. Here we go. The Space Cadets will start lobbying for trillions of taxpayer dollars to explore Saturn's moon.

LOL. I agree.

I'd rather we just gaze at the stars as our half naked forebears did, and remain ignorant of this troublesome space-knowledge.

There isn't enough knowledge on earth to complicate human existence--they have to go flying around the universe for more?

I'd rather we worship the sun and moon as gods, making the usual animal sacrifices to them.

(I am not being a wise-guy; I'm serious.)

24 posted on 01/14/2005 8:29:32 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: dc-zoo
Yes.. liquid methane.

Oh Boy LNG. Now we just need some giant space tankers and we've solved all our fuel requirements for the next two million years. And we don't even have to liquify it!

25 posted on 01/14/2005 8:35:31 PM PST by Timocrat (I Emanate on your Auras and Penumbras Mr Blackmun)
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To: Batrachian
I say it's Titan Rover time, in spite of what that Euroweenie says.

May as well toss our hat in the ring too.

26 posted on 01/14/2005 8:40:49 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Paleo Conservative

The fact that Titan has a hydrocarbon atmosphere should point out the obvious to everyone here: Hydrocarbons (i.e. petrochemicals) DO NOT come from "fossils". They are geochemical in nature, not dependent upon former biological activity. Earth is going to continue making oil, as long as the tectonic plates continue to subduct, and as long as we have a molten core.

To continue to charge exorbitant prices for a product because "we're going to run out of it someday" is now rendered total bullshit. Let's see the price reflect reality now, and one less piece of the sky is falling.


27 posted on 01/14/2005 8:42:59 PM PST by datura (Destroy The UN, the MSM, and China. The rest will fall into line once we get rid of these.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Thank you. I have just enough chemistry and physics to understand what you have just explained.

Billybob
28 posted on 01/14/2005 8:43:10 PM PST by Congressman Billybob (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

They're also talking about blimps. They can stay up for months, or that's the idea, at least.


29 posted on 01/14/2005 9:21:25 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: Age of Reason

"Did Galileo pray?"


30 posted on 01/14/2005 9:21:58 PM PST by steve dubya
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To: neverdem

Incredible!


31 posted on 01/14/2005 9:26:22 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: neverdem
Well dahhhhhhhhhhhh!

Looks like a river bed with all the ROUNDED rocks lying around. Now what could possibly round out all those boulders.

Liquid substance? Naaaaaaaaaaaah!
32 posted on 01/14/2005 9:29:43 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Paleo Conservative

You sound like the one to ask, but I thought I heard the liquid that would be there would be ETHANE. Did I hear wrong?


33 posted on 01/14/2005 9:30:28 PM PST by CarolAnn (If we aren't supposed to shoot animals, then why did God make them out of meat?)
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To: CarolAnn

Nope, you didn't hear wrong. Any liquid present would likely be Ethane according to Huygens project scientists.


34 posted on 01/14/2005 9:31:34 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Thank you! I was just beginning to understand what all the project scientsts were talking about. That doesn't happen very often with me, so I can go back to being pleased with myself. ?:}


35 posted on 01/14/2005 9:35:53 PM PST by CarolAnn (If we aren't supposed to shoot animals, then why did God make them out of meat?)
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To: neverdem
awesome!

I've often thought that one of the greatest scenes possible would be a view of Saturn in the night sky of one of it's moons.

I wonder if they could or would attempt it?

As it is...these pictures are breathtaking!

Thanks for the post.

36 posted on 01/14/2005 9:39:30 PM PST by mitch5501 (by the grace of God,I am what I am)
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To: Puckster

It almost looks likes there's liquid flowing by those rocks - but the resolution is poor.


37 posted on 01/14/2005 9:41:43 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Considering the resolution.............EVERYTHING is rounded.

Resolution can't hide that.

Just suggestion thaT SOMETHING liquid rounded out EVERYTHING!


38 posted on 01/14/2005 9:44:24 PM PST by Puckster
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To: Puckster

I get the feeling these are low-resolution first look data products - they are keeping the full data close to the vest until the next press con.


39 posted on 01/14/2005 9:46:37 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Congressman Billybob

Does this mean there are cows on Titan?


40 posted on 01/14/2005 9:56:29 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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