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To: Quix
Like it or not, the USA was founded on the principle that all men have inalienable rights to life, liberty, and property, under due process of Constitutional law.
Our Constitution makes that principle quite clear, and only mentions religion in a generic sense. There is no specific reference to "CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES" or "INDIVIDUAL CHRISTIAN IDEALS AND VALUES".

Evidently you've had a poor history teacher.

Nothing in my post is "poor history". Evidently, you cannot refute those facts.

Trace out where the values enshrined in the founding documents originated from. Read the Federalist Papers.

Nothing in the Federalist Papers make specific reference to "CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES" or "INDIVIDUAL CHRISTIAN IDEALS AND VALUES" as being the founding principles of our Republic, -- you know this. - You're bluffing.

And your response to the Mars colony situation would be?

How could a constitution modeled on our own be 'taken over' by fanatics from either radical faction, if they all worked within its framework?

157 posted on 01/15/2005 2:48:52 PM PST by jonestown ( Tolerance for intolerance is not tolerance at all. It's appeasement)
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To: jonestown

I can't FORCE you to notice the facts in the founding documents and the early founding fathers's papers.

You are free to ignore the evidence aplenty. I have no burning desire to try and force you to see the obvious.

Interestingly, somewhat like God, our founders left enough wiggle room for diversity that you can very slightly rationally make your claims.

Those claims don't really jive with history nor the founding documents and associated early papers. But, hey, Communistic revisionism is a growth industry in our era. Help yourself and pay accordingly.

How could a Constitution modeled on our own be taken over by fanatics? It's been done and is increasingly being done in our era. Evidently your poor history background is matched by blindness to the news.


159 posted on 01/15/2005 3:16:17 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: jonestown

You're still failing to respond to the essentials of the Mars colony analogy.


161 posted on 01/15/2005 3:19:13 PM PST by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING IT'S POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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