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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; sionnsar; anymouse; RadioAstronomer; NonZeroSum; jimkress; ...
Here is my take on the whole UFO thing:

1. I don't believe the nut jobs who had alien probes up thier you know what or the Roswell incident. Who know what happend.
2. After seeing pictures from the soon to be departed hubble, there is no way in heck that we are alone in this universe or in this galaxy.
3. It seems to me that people who think we are alone are the flat earthers of the 15th century.
4. We will make contact with other lifeforms. When I don't know.
5. As for them not contacting us.. Quite frankly with abunch islam facist and other vermin, it is safe to say they would probaly want to avoid us period.
That is my take..


162 posted on 01/15/2005 1:40:45 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: KevinDavis

Can you please explain #3?

"It seems to me that people who think we are alone are the flat earthers of the 15th century."

Weren't most people in the 15th century flat earthers? They happened to be wrong, but they were in the majority. Flat earthers didn't become a minority until they were presented with some rather compelling evidence (Ferdinand Magellan comes to mind). Don't most people today think that we're not alone?


165 posted on 01/16/2005 3:38:20 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: KevinDavis
'Morn Kevin,

1. "I don't believe the nut jobs who had alien probes up thier you know what or the Roswell incident. Who know what happend."

What don't you believe about the Roswell incident? There was an event there, all interested and/or involved parties know this. And the USAF has offered up a number of explanations over the years, most recently their claim that the beings reported by a large number of witnesses where actually atmospheric test dummies. Of course, these test apparati where not in use until the 1950's... not July 1947. I truly do not know what happened in Roswell, but it certainly do know that the story has not been truthfully presented to those who make inquiries.

2. "After seeing pictures from the soon to be departed hubble, there is no way in heck that we are alone in this universe or in this galaxy."

I agree with you wholeheartedly.

3. "It seems to me that people who think we are alone are the flat earthers of the 15th century."

I know what you mean, though I think you meant the 21st century.

4. "We will make contact with other lifeforms. When I don't know."

I don't know, either. I also don't know that we haven't.

5. "As for them not contacting us.. Quite frankly with abunch islam facist and other vermin, it is safe to say they would probaly want to avoid us period. That is my take.."

What, you don't think ET's couldn't be agents provocateur, or hoping we neuter ourselves and become easily dominated? I am not saying that outworlders are necessarily hostile, but based on solely your reasons to avoid us, that's what popped into my thoughts.

This last item, regarding ET's and their motivations, it depends on your worldview. I certainly am not the "Age-of-Aquarius- Children-of-the-Sun" type, and such don't think that a technologically advanced race is necessarily benign. Neither do I think they would be particularly dominating, a la Independence Day. It my belief that life seeks resources, ranging from primal material needs to more cerebral/emotional yearnings for communication. Those requirements may vary from intelligent species to intelligent species, but I think it's a pretty universal expectation of biological behavior.
166 posted on 01/17/2005 9:50:49 AM PST by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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