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Police Worried About New Vest-Penetrating Gun
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Posted on 01/14/2005 12:21:45 PM PST by Mr. Mojo

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1 posted on 01/14/2005 12:21:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
More B.S. from the gun-banners.

They don't tell you that ANY center fire rifle bullet - even the lowly .30-30 - will penetrate your average police vest. The NATO vest does a good deal better, but those steel plates get heavy after awhile . . .

2 posted on 01/14/2005 12:23:32 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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Everything I've been told gripes that the FN Five Seven is underpowered.
I'm not a pistol man, so I don't know.
But that is what I've read.


3 posted on 01/14/2005 12:23:41 PM PST by Darksheare (Tales from the Freeper Foxhole presents: Darksheare's Coffee vs Midnight Troll)
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"This does not belong in the civilian population. The only thing that comes out of this is profits for the company and dead police officers," Troy said.

I have to agree with Troy.

4 posted on 01/14/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by Brilliant
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I'm not a cop, but personally, I wouldn't be nearly as worried about a gun that penetrates vests as I would bullets that penetrate the vest.  Guns almost never kill people.  Bullets do.

Owl_Eagle

"You know, I'm going to start thanking
the woman who cleans the restroom in
the building I work in.  I'm going to start
thinking of her as a human being"

-Hillary Clinton
(Yes, she really said that

5 posted on 01/14/2005 12:25:12 PM PST by End Times Sentinel ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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To: Brilliant

no it doesn't belong in the criminal population. If liberal states would kill some of these repeat criminals then they wouldn't have to worry about these things.


6 posted on 01/14/2005 12:26:36 PM PST by tfecw (dolphins are the spawn of evil)
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To: Mr. Mojo
FN Five Seven:


7 posted on 01/14/2005 12:26:49 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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Well, according to this, the pistol is available only to law enforcement and military.
8 posted on 01/14/2005 12:27:05 PM PST by .38sw
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To: Mr. Mojo
Gee, the same thing is true for the $100 tokarev or the AR15 pistol that have been available for decades.
9 posted on 01/14/2005 12:27:05 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

exactly...and don't they have bullets that penatrate vest already? It's not like these company made a bullet that is the first to ever go through a police vets


10 posted on 01/14/2005 12:27:43 PM PST by tfecw (dolphins are the spawn of evil)
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Amazingly, I've never seen a gun actually penetrate a vest.


11 posted on 01/14/2005 12:28:18 PM PST by cspackler (There are 10 kinds of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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Another view:

Interesting round from the looks of it.

12 posted on 01/14/2005 12:28:30 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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"...company boasts the five-seven's ability to penetrate more than 48 layers of Kevlar ...if you use a five-seven, 28-mm armor-piercing bullet."

Well, Jesus Christmas, what vest wiill NOT be defeated by a "28mm bullet"?!


13 posted on 01/14/2005 12:28:48 PM PST by Gefreiter (When seconds count, the police are minutes away.)
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Was shown info on this weapon last weekend. It is hard to buy right now--demand exceeding supply. I believe it costs around $800-900.


14 posted on 01/14/2005 12:28:50 PM PST by NautiNurse (Osama bin Laden has more tapes than Steely Dan)
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What is the name of the company that would be so irresponsible as to manufacture such a weapon?
15 posted on 01/14/2005 12:28:54 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Owl_Eagle
KNIVES CAN PENETRATE VESTS
16 posted on 01/14/2005 12:29:25 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Not this crap again!

I know I'm preaching to the choir here....but the minimal requirements for most police departments in this country is NIJ threat level II. This stops "most" handgun rounds.

But if it's concealability that's the concern, then consider the civilianized version of the M4. Not quite as hideable as a handgun, but much easier than a full sized rifle...and it will poke holes in NIJ TL-II body armor all day long.

Whadda bunch-a-hype. The sky is falling!
17 posted on 01/14/2005 12:29:37 PM PST by hiredhand (Pudge the Indestructible Kitty lives at http://www.justonemorefarm.com)
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To: Brilliant
I have to agree with Troy.

Then you might as well ban all handguns (most of which can be modified to bust vests) all rifles,etc,etc.

18 posted on 01/14/2005 12:30:02 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Anyway, its not a "28" mm round, its a 5.7 x 28, that looks a little like a shorter version of the Remington 221 Fireball, scaled down for a pistol magazine.


19 posted on 01/14/2005 12:30:05 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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I almost responded, but then realized my knowledge of the subject matter would likely get me a visit from law enforcement. Sometimes it is best to just STFU.


20 posted on 01/14/2005 12:30:36 PM PST by FreeInWV
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