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To: Mr. Silverback
I think I made it clear that it's an imposition in my earlier post. It's a very great imposition, one that is in fact, criminal. and that leads me to the most important point here. The rapist is the one who deserves to pay for the act, not the child. If the child is killed, the child is paying for the crime. Since when does a victim going through a tough time mean she gets to murder somebody connected to the case? Since when does any action done or emotion felt by an adult justify killing a small child?

You leave out the rape victim in your calculations. What if my 13 year old daughter was raped, you would rather see her suffer for 9 months of pregnacy (the rapists kid) and then deal with the ramifications of that child for life. That is a decision that is not yours to make. That is between the rape victim and her god.

32 posted on 01/15/2005 9:26:30 PM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: TheOtherOne
That is between the rape victim and her god.

No it isn't, it's God's decision and he has already made it. Thou shalt do no murder.

I guess I look at the abortion issue differently than some of the people who say they're pro-life. To me it's about the sanctity of human life, and God's commandments concerning that matter. A fetus at ANY stage of life after conception is undeniably human life, and as such comes under all of God's directives and commandments concerning the taking of that life by other humans. There are several specified situations in which God has given man authority to take human life, but not a single one of those situations is applicable to a living human fetus in the womb.

If and when a 13 year-old girl is raped by her father, or by anyone, it is a horrible crime and the poor girl will no doubt suffer terribly. But that is NOT the fault of the tiny human being who is the product of that rape. We live in a fallen world, one that was created in perfection but made corrupt by man's sin. Terrible things happen to innocent people in this fallen world, but God hasn't given anyone permission to lessen the suffering of one innocent person by killing another innocent person.

The bottom line is, man is in a fallen state and as such is subject to the ravages of sin and the inevitable suffering that results from sin. The suffering of the innocent doesn't seem fair to us, but it isn't our world or our sense of fairness that guides God in his decisions. God has reserved to himself the right to take human life, and only he can delegate that right to man or to the human institutions he established, such as government. He alone decides who he will allow to terminate human life and under what conditions it is permissible to do so. There is not even a hint anywhere in scripture that God allows the deliberate murder of an innocent human fetus in order to spare another innocent person from suffering.

35 posted on 01/16/2005 7:04:39 AM PST by epow
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To: TheOtherOne; Mr. Silverback
I would argue that not only is it wrong to kill the baby (which is not only the rapist's baby but the girls as well) but that the 13 year old would know that it was wrong! Why would you want to make her a victim twice? Would carrying the baby be hard...yes. Would carrying the baby be an inconvenience...yes. Would carrying the baby be right...yes. Often doing the easy thing is not the same as doing the right thing. Doing what is right would be difficult; living with the guilt of killing a baby would be crushing. She could clean off the blood of labor and know that she gave the baby a good home via adoption but she could never clean off the blood of abortion. She would live every single day knowing that she killed someone. Taking the easy way out would be the hardest in the long run.
And to say that the pregnancy would remind her that she was raped is bogus---do you think that a woman ever forgets being raped?; pregnant or not the answer is no.
36 posted on 01/16/2005 7:49:09 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ("A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.")
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To: TheOtherOne
What if my 13 year old daughter was raped, you would rather see her suffer
for 9 months of pregnacy (the rapists kid)
(and her child too) and then deal
with the ramifications of that child for life.
.. instead of killing her child and
dealing with the ramifications of that for the rest of her life.

That is between the rape victim and her god.

I am trying to imagine what kind of god approves of the killing of an innocent
human in order to assuage an emotional and/or financial burden. Aztec? Allah?
Obviously not the same Creator mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

37 posted on 01/16/2005 8:08:49 AM PST by TigersEye (Thank you, Swift Vets!!!)
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