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To: palmer
Crowley2000 is also mentioned in Mann's paper and has data that has been thoroughly manipulated using a simulation to remove all forcing effects except those from greenhouse gases. There's no testing of the CO2 forcing hypothesis and therefore no proof of anything.

Umm, I think that you may have gotten your papers mixed up. The one that Mann referenced is "How Warm Was the Medieval Warm Period?" by Crowley and Lowery .

The one that you found the data set on was "Causes of Climate Change Over the Past 1000 Years" by Crowley alone.
155 posted on 01/20/2005 7:20:36 AM PST by Yelling
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To: Yelling

Nonetheless, it is likely that Crowley used the same data tweaking in both papers. The dataset I downloaded is tweaked and can't be used to compare current proxy measurements with past ones. I'll keep downloading data sets and posting conclusions for all the ones I download no matter what the results, but I can't draw conclusions when data has been manipulated.


157 posted on 01/20/2005 7:25:12 AM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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