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To: Yelling
"In the first part of the present millennium, between 1100 and 1400 AD, sometimes called the Medieval Warm Period, the global temperatures rose around 0.3C in comparison to the norm of reference, the year 1900 (Riccardi, 1995)." Of course the current temperature is about 0.5 C warmer than it was in 1900 so that puts the MWP cooler than current times.

Averaging 3 centuries to produce one number and comparing that to two decades of above-normal surface temperature measurements (with a well known 0.1 to 0.15 degree bias)?

Comparing a reference year in one study to reference years in others which use different measurements and calculate global average differently? Nice bit of 1900ism there.

There were certainly decades in the MWP that exceeded the extremes of the 1980's and 1990's, that's easy to establish from the long term averages being higher and what we observe about short term variations. You have yet to show a single study showing the MWP was cooler than the 1900's which would call that into question. On the other hand, I and the others have presented global temperatures proxies to show that the MWP was not isolated to the north Atlantic. Yet all you do is blame eurocentrism for the overemphasis on MWP and wave around your non-quantifiable (in terms of temperature offsets) ocean current local effects as the other cause.

On the other hand I admit it is easy to get caught up in Viking stories. But I will keep waiting for your evidence that MWP was cooler than the 1900's comparing averages to averages.

146 posted on 01/19/2005 1:20:40 PM PST by palmer ("Oh you heartless gloaters")
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To: palmer
Averaging 3 centuries to produce one number To be able to say that this is what they did you must have read the paper. So what methodology did they use. Oh, and remember I am actually quoting from the paper that you referred to when you said "I researched the examples you stabbed at above and found it wasn't just glaciers in Argentina (with possible precip influence) but climate compared to today (Cioccale 99)."
147 posted on 01/19/2005 3:55:33 PM PST by Yelling
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