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Wolves kill hunting dogs near Dent Bridge
CLEARWATER TRIBUNE | January 13, 2005 | Vicki McLeod

Posted on 01/13/2005 2:48:45 PM PST by Delphinium

Wolves kill hunting dogs near Dent Bridge

Mike Stockton, guide for Reggear Outfitters, was conducting a hunt Tuesday morning, Jan. 11, around 8:30-9:30 a.m. in the Cranberry Creek/Elk Creek area northeast of Dent Bridge when he says three of his hunting dogs were killed by wolves. A fourth is being treated at the vet for bite wounds to his hind quarters. According to Stockton, the vet documented the dog’s wounds as inflicted by an animal of at least one hundred pounds.

Stockton and Travis Reggear (Outfitter owner) were on Baldy Road, on the other side of Dent Bridge, running bobcat. Stockton says there are two packs of four wolves each (one in Elk Creek, one in Swamp Creek) that they’ve been watching for six weeks now. Because of this, prior to beginning the hunt, Stockton and Reggear (who hunt together in an effort to protect the dogs), circled the road by pickup to make sure no wolves were nearby.

The dogs’ treeing switches were activated showing that a bobcat was treed. Soon after, the treeing switches quit signaling “treed” but since he and Reggear had already circled the area, Stockton didn’t suspect that wolves were around.

At that point, a single dog was showing movement throughout the canyon area. Stockton called to the dog and heard a wolf howl. He saw a second wolf. As Stockton reached the scene, one of his dogs was dead near the tree with the full kill site one hundred yards wide. The fourth dog was still running around the hillside.

Stockton believes the wolves came from Swamp Creek, down Baldy Road two to two-and-a-half miles. It had only been a little over an hour from the time the dogs were originally let out until the attack.

Stockton, a 24-year outfitter, believes the wolves were only doing what wolves do. He blames the people in society for causing the wolves to be there to begin with.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: animalrights; environment; epa; esa; hounds; hunting; wolves
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To: Delphinium

I mean presa canarios.


61 posted on 01/15/2005 9:20:46 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Palladin; HairOfTheDog
Sorry, I just posted the story from our local paper.

I am always surprised to find how little freepers know about this serious problem Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana are having.
62 posted on 01/15/2005 9:21:19 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

We need to deploy wolves at or Southern border. They could
easily out-perform the Border patrol.


63 posted on 01/15/2005 9:24:05 AM PST by RWCon (P)
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To: RWCon

No --- political correctness will rule --- if a wolf attacks an drug runner from Mexico --- the government will quickly turn on the wolves.


64 posted on 01/15/2005 9:26:00 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Delphinium

Thank you for raising our awareness.

I hope the enviroloonies in Pennsylvania never get the wacky idea to introduce Canadian wolves here.

The farmers here would shoot them on sight.

(Not the loonies--the wolves).


65 posted on 01/15/2005 9:28:13 AM PST by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: Delphinium

I've seen a lot of threads posted about wolves, I think people are aware that wolves have been reintroduced. This article just has no clue where this incident took place if you don't know where "Dent bridge" "Baldy Road" are.

The guy had hunting hounds loose in the back country who are quite often at risk of tangling with the wrong prey. It's a sport for the rugged, it ain't golf. If not a wolf, many hounds are hurt or lost when they tangle with cougar, coyote, moose, elk or a bear. Many hounds take off after something and are never seen again if they get out of range of their radio collars. Had a hungry tired hound show up at my campsite once, whose owner had given up looking and gone home. Lucky for him he got a phone call.

But this article doesn't describe the problem many on here fear, of suburban wolves preying on pets in a back yard, or stock on a farm. This guy was hunting, and he lost the hunt.


66 posted on 01/15/2005 9:34:23 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: unbalanced but fair
It is about rural cleansing for the :

>The Wildlands Project

or if the link doesn't work because I still haven't figured out how to:

http://www.ohwy.com/id/y/y16035.htm
67 posted on 01/15/2005 9:36:46 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: HairOfTheDog
But this article doesn't describe the problem many on here fear, of suburban wolves preying on pets in a back yard, or stock on a farm. This guy was hunting, and he lost the hunt.

I agree this wasn't an article to explain the who problem. There are many more posted on FR. I just posted this from a small town weekly paper.

Not sure what you mean by suburban wolves? This is not surburbia, but it is where we live and raise our children.

I live 1 mile from a small town and wolves killed my neighbors 2 horses and 2 dogs. Is that close enough?
68 posted on 01/15/2005 9:44:28 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I live 1 mile from a small town and wolves killed my neighbors 2 horses and 2 dogs. Is that close enough?

If it really happened.... seems like it would be news... if this story was.

69 posted on 01/15/2005 9:47:02 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Palladin
Thank you for raising our awareness.

Thank you for understanding, many don't get it.
70 posted on 01/15/2005 9:48:00 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: HairOfTheDog

I posted it on FR over a year ago, along with many others. We have had some pretty heated debates.


71 posted on 01/15/2005 9:49:25 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

I know - I usually read them, and sometimes post on them.

You seem to think I am not aware of the issue. I am. I only asked where this incident was.


72 posted on 01/15/2005 9:50:41 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I thought you were, but maybe I am too defensive. Sorry.


73 posted on 01/15/2005 9:52:16 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

I don't have a knee jerk reaction that all predators must be eliminated whenever one is spotted, I don't come on these threads and say "shoot shovel shutup" like I am a tough guy, but I do think re-introducing wolves is probably a mistake, and farmers have a legitimate reason to fear for their stock.

There are probably too many people everywhere now to have room for wolves... any more than we had 'room' for them the first time we wiped them out. But I mourn that, I don't celebrate it.


74 posted on 01/15/2005 9:59:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: FITZ

I am all for wilderness areas and have spent many days in them here in Colorado.

Adding wolves to them serves no purpose whatsoever except to make it potentially dangerous for people who want to enjoy the public lands.

They are already taking cattle and sheep where they have been un-naturally re-introduced.

I believe the best place to see a wolf is in a zoo.


75 posted on 01/15/2005 10:04:37 AM PST by Pylot
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To: HairOfTheDog
There are probably too many people everywhere now to have room for wolves... any more than we had 'room' for them the first time we wiped them out. But I mourn that, I don't celebrate it.

But it happened. My ancestors settled here early just like people who settled in New York, and Virginia. Just because we aren't as populated doesn't make this less our home.
76 posted on 01/15/2005 10:05:45 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium

Anything in my post that disagrees with that?


77 posted on 01/15/2005 10:07:01 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Pylot

I like some wolves and bears around. I think they actually help keep wilderness areas safe --- they deter some of the people types that could really ruin them.


78 posted on 01/15/2005 10:07:05 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ

Cougars are even better for that ;~D


79 posted on 01/15/2005 10:07:44 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: curmudgeonII

Some here in Alaska go 150lbs- their print almost the size of your hand- HUGE!


80 posted on 01/15/2005 10:07:47 AM PST by midnightson
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