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Apple Macs: Objects of devotion
BBC ^ | 1/13/05

Posted on 01/13/2005 12:28:42 PM PST by ambrose

Apple Macs: Objects of devotion


By Stephen Evans


BBC North America business correspondent


It's tempting to think that Steve Jobs is some sort of religious leader rather than the chief executive of a rather successful computer company.

And you could be forgiven for thinking that his Apple products are objects of religious devotion rather than mere pieces of plastic enclosing silicon chips.

The Cult of Mac does have some rational basis.

There seems little doubt that the products are very good. Its strong attractions are usability and good looks (though not usually price until this week's announcement of a less expensive home computer).

Inspired behaviour

There is clearly, though, something more to it than mere mundane functionality.

Lots of companies make good products but they don't attract the kind of religious zeal that Mac inspires.

Take the case of John Charlton, for example, who, according to Wired magazine, travels the world with his Newton, the PDA which Apple discontinued in 1998, and has now created a gallery of pictures of the said gizmo in front of various global landmarks from Florida to Munich to Lisbon.

Or the people who cut their hair to show an Apple symbol or who get Mac tattoos or who dress up like Steve Jobs or who trek around the world to the opening of a new Apple Store.

Rebellious streak

It is a tribal thing - the Mac Tribe - and a sociological phenomenon, to do perhaps with a minority who believe they have seen a truth, much like the drivers of VW Beetles would wave to each other in the 60s, knowing utterly that their car was superior, but it was a secret unperceived by the rest.

There may also be a type of person who delights in going against the herd.

Whatever is fashionable for the masses becomes unfashionable for the minority. Manchester City and the New York Mets both have their loyal followers who would rather die than head for Old Trafford or Yankee Stadium. And so it is with Microsoft and Apple.

While the big company dominates the market with its uncool product, Macs offer an alternative to those with a streak of bolshiness and perversity (both nouns are compliments).

Cool dudes?

None of which is to say that Apple and Mac offer style but no substance.

Clearly, the company is getting a lot right. Its devotees (disciples?) swear by their products as being effective and easy to use.

It's just that there's something more to it than that: the packaging and sales-pitch have succeeded brilliantly in conveying a whole life-style and image.

That style emanates from the top.

Steve Jobs is the counter-image of a stuffy businessman. He wears trainers, jeans and black sweaters.

Apple's attitude to the media is actually tight and highly controlled yet the image portrayed is of a cool and easy-going counter-culture.

Pure marketing

Let me declare an interest: I own a Microsoft driven personal computer. It serves me very well. I have no strong feelings about it. Mac may or may not be better; it's just that it's not the route I happened to take.

I get stalked, though, by colleagues who insist on telling me how much better their iPod is than my Dell Jukebox, even as the reviews say the battery life of an iPod isn't the best around. Or how I should throw my PC away and get a Mac.

They may be right.

It's just that some of the message is in the marketing.

We asked you, our readers, if you are Mac followers or loathe Macs, or indeed whether you are simply puzzled by this phenomenon? The feedback printed below reflects the wide range of views held.

I have not got a clue about this issue and i am a loser when it comes to technology.


Hassan Shah, Watford

Not to knock Jobs, but that iPod shuffle round his neck looks terribly unfashionable. Sort of like when you were back in school and you had that teacher with the big glasses and pen hanging round her neck. I for one won't get one until it is covered in zebra stripes and purrs everytime I do something right, like my girlfriend ;-)


John, London

Macs have always lead the way. They are simpler, more intuitive to use and now cost less! They are also better quality.


Jeff Lil, Hull UK

I must admit to being puzzled by the whole Apple cult. I too have had my ear bent by Mac nerds, but I've ignored them because I can't see the point of paying over the odds for an inferior product just because someone considers it to be stylish. Why buy a Mac when you can get a PC that will outperform it in every respect for half the price?


Anthony Jones, Leeds UK

Once again, disappointingly, a report on Apple rehashes the old myth, that Macs are more expensive than their equivalent PCs. Utter Tosh. TCO (total cost of ownership) studies show, time and again, with equivalent hardware and software, that Macs are actually cheaper. Lazy journalistic nonsense.


John, Forfar, Scotland

I like the idea of the Ipod shuffle and also the price but I can't help but feel that they are really taking advantage of new computer users with the mini Mac. They are taking advantage of Mac as a hip brand name to sell a product without a keyboard, mouse and monitor and are marketing it like they are doing the consumer a favour.

People will buy them because Mac is the it thing to have but these will be home users wanting something to look good next to their lava lamps or something. If Mac just lowered the prices for their Macs anyway they would be able to compete with PC no problem in my opinion, I feel we are being slightly ripped off by this mini Mac.


Andrew Maddock, Harrow, London

I am indeed puzzled. The Mac Mini is lacklustre. The specification are so 2003. And yet people are willing to pay money for that. The iPod Shuffle is even worse.


March Suffot, London

I am always amazed with how intuitive Apple products are to use. Proof: they come with no manuals.


Bav, Brussels

I'm a user of Macs and PCs (and by the way, it's not just a matter of Apple versus Microsoft: Microsoft Office is very widely used on Macs, at any rate in corporates).

I don't have a strong preference as regards the working environment: as an IT professional, I've worked on and supported both platforms (and others). I suppose if I didn't need to maintain my skills on both platforms I'd be content enough with a Mac.

I think, objectively, the interface is generally better, not to mention friendlier for non-experts, and I've happily produced reams using one or other of my Macs. But then, I've done the same on PCs.

However, I do get irritated by the aggressive evangelism of many Mac (and Linux) users: perhaps Mac users really are smarter, cuddlier, safer and more creative than PC users (but I'd like to see some reliable, objective statistics!), but in my experience they're often rude and arrogant.

I suspect that this often shows a deep-seated defensiveness and insecurity. Apple do many things just right (and I'm not just talking marketing either), but they aren't perfect.

Furthermore, Mac users don't live in a vacuum: the Mac experience might be more productive and pleasant if the rest of the online world supported the platform better. The fact that they don't isn't the fault of Apple or the customers (well, sometimes it is: insularity is not an attractive trait), but it isn't an argument for putting all your eggs in the Mac basket, either.


David Harley CISSP, Headley Down, UK

I think that for most Mac users there are a range of factors that influence us. A distrust or dissatisfaction of Microsoft is one factor - in this sense Mac users are similar to people who choose Firefox over IE or Linux over Windows.

In many cases there are also very specific, practical reasons. I use a Mac at work because I have something like 10 years of resources created on Macs (some of which use software unique to the Mac).

I use a Mac to read email by preference to reduce my exposure to viruses (most of which can't damage the Mac OS or Mac files).

Finally, Mac products tend to have a longer shelf-life than Windows PC products and tend to be easier to use. This last point is no longer as true as used to be (Apple has adopted generic PC components in its machines and lowered quality slightly over the years), but I have never had a serious or expensive hardware fault with any Mac I've used at home or for work. This contrasts with the experience of many PC using colleagues at work over the years.


Thom Baguley, Loughborough

Your reporter sounds a bit defensive, insistent on portraying Mac users as "other" than normal computer users. Perhaps that makes him more comfortable with his Windows PC. If he focused on which computers are better for most users, his stubborn resistance to trying a Mac may give way. Oh, the horror!


Ted Rebarber, United States

I have used Macs for almost 20 years and a Windows PC on only a couple of occasions. I don't drive a Beetle (or Bug) but chuckled at the article, agreeing with it and identify with many aspects of it.

It's not a religious thing, just about finding what works best for you ... except you then want to evangelise about the 'great truth' you have discovered, which sort of makes it a quasi-religious thing!

PS. I have already placed my order for an iPod shuffle!


Lester Peters, High Wycombe, UK

Apple has an outstanding Marketing department that could sell rain coats in the desert. As for their products, its all down to hype and marketing. Many companies offer better products at far lower prices.

"Macs are really easy to use" they cry. Anyone who has ever sat down in front of a Mac for the first time will realise that a Mac is very easy to use - but only when you know how to use it!


Phil Templeton, Poole, Uk

As is usually the case with these things, those pursuing "anti-fashion" are the biggest fashion victims of them all. It reminds me of my teenage niece who wants to be "different" just like the rest of her friends.


Matt, Amsterdam, The Netherlands (ex. UK)

If this goes on, in few years time it'll be rebellious not to have a Mac product. So far, I'm doing well, I don't have any! ;-)


Konstantinos M, Athens/London

Everybody knows that Macs are better than PCs. But we all have to use PCs for compatibility, because everyone else does.


Adam, London, UK

Who cares?


Chris, Lincoln



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KEYWORDS: apple; cultofmac; maccult; macmoonies; macuser
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To: Question_Assumptions

It couldn't be UNIX could it? I run Linux on one of my laptops and never have to worry about security. And OSX Panther is a beautiful work of art and is said to be the easiest operating system to use in the world.


81 posted on 01/13/2005 1:40:07 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Petronski

You can get an addon external 'USB port extender'. Sorta like a network 'hub'.

Many have 4 or more ports.


They work on PC's as well.


82 posted on 01/13/2005 1:41:29 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bigh4u2

Macs and PCs now use DVI standard. If you're still using an old VGA monitor, DVI-to-VGA adapters are included for free. The Mac mini includes one at no cost.


83 posted on 01/13/2005 1:42:41 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Petronski

And the shortcoming of the Mac Mini is the lack of expansion ports. What if your on-board graphics card dies? With my PC, it was a simple matter of installing a beefier AGP card into my expansion port and I was back in business. It would been nice to add at least three or four expansion ports on the Mac Mini. That's my only gripe about it.


84 posted on 01/13/2005 1:43:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Terpfen

Well since I seem to be a little 'behind the times', I guess I need to brush up on what's out there!

Haven't bought anything newer than a Video Card and Monitor and hard drive in years.

:0)


85 posted on 01/13/2005 1:44:34 PM PST by Bigh4u2
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Apple is the king of packaging. The Cube was a cool looking computer.
86 posted on 01/13/2005 1:44:38 PM PST by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: Bigh4u2

Yes I said that. If almost every user is going to need that (printer, keyboard, mouse--whoops, already one short), it should be built in.

If a hub is going to be required, they should brag about the elegance.


87 posted on 01/13/2005 1:44:51 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: goldstategop
"Apple Works is even better than MS Office."

I disagree. I tried using Apple Works for a while but never liked the way it handle embedded objects. It was hardly ever updated from its Claris days.

Microsoft Office for the Mac is an excellent product. The way that you can link MS documents, files, folders and Entourage objects is very useful. Much better than Microsoft's silly binder application. Mucho Expensivo though. I'll probably never upgrade to a new version.

88 posted on 01/13/2005 1:45:13 PM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: Petronski

Shouldn't. They shouldn't brag about the elegance.


89 posted on 01/13/2005 1:45:16 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Wooly

I certainly wouldn't want that PC. Maxtor is an unreliable brand, the Radeon 9800 Pro is about three generations of hardware too old (the G5 uses a GeForce 6800 Ultra with dual-link DVI, not the R9800), the Raptor is fast but lacks sufficient storage space (I'm running on 2x WD 120GB Caviars), Creative's sound quality loses out to M-Audio's, you have about one too many DVD drives there, and I'd rather have a widescreen monitor.

And thus ends the longest run-on sentence of this thread.


90 posted on 01/13/2005 1:48:32 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Bigh4u2
And what happens when the video chip blows? Or the modem, how about the ethernet card?

If it's a Mac, chances are none of those things will happen.

91 posted on 01/13/2005 1:49:12 PM PST by papertyger
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To: goldstategop

What about DVD burning? it ain't in there, and the user sure can't buy a commodity drive and pop it in. No doubt Apple insists their own tech do it.


92 posted on 01/13/2005 1:49:44 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: Bigh4u2

Same here, but mainly because I'm a dirt-poor college student. All the new stuff coming out (Mac mini, Sony PSP, Nintendo DS, small-size widescreen LCD TVs, HTPCs) depresses me beyond belief. I want it all! =P


93 posted on 01/13/2005 1:50:39 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Bigh4u2
And what happens when the video chip blows? Or the modem, how about the ethernet card? Back to the factory?

I don't know for sure because I've never seen it happen. That's why these arguments always start to seem so silly. PC users are all caught up in worrying about things that are simply non-issues with Macs. The short and sweet version is that the reason why the cheapest Mac isn't as cheap as the cheapest Dell is that Macs don't use the cheapest components available and have a minimum standard of quality that produces good reliability. The reason why the modem, ethernet port, and video chip set on a Mac don't blow is that Apple doesn't put crummy components in their machines so they can sell them for $349. If price was the end-all-be-all of reasons why a person might buy something, Hyundai would be the top selling automaker in the US because they have a $9,999 model. But would I trade my 9 year-old Volkwagen for a 9 year-old Hyundai? No. Because I personally prefer using machines that work.

94 posted on 01/13/2005 1:51:19 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Terpfen
...you have about one too many DVD drives there...

What about watching a movie while waiting for the harddrive backup to finish? DVD-ROM drives are 35 bucks, why not have a second? Also, DVD backups can go direct.

95 posted on 01/13/2005 1:52:25 PM PST by Petronski (Alles klar, Herr Kommissar?)
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To: goldstategop
When AppleWorks (or the new iWorks) can do real-time spell checking and grammar checking like Word, I'll think about switching.
96 posted on 01/13/2005 1:53:04 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Petronski

You can get an external DVD-ROM drive and run it with any computer that has a fast processor and plenty of memory.


97 posted on 01/13/2005 1:54:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Petronski

It IS elegant. Get it with the WiFi and BlueTooth options, and the only cables you'll need is power and video.

Keyboard & mouse? wireless bluetooth. Network? wireless 802.11g. Printer? get the AirPort Express - your printer is now wireless and shared. Audio? already on the AirPort Express. Big hard drive? pick up a Buffalo WiFi-enabled drive (100-300GB).
Still the only cables are power & video.

Dang. I'm talking myself into a Mac Mini.


98 posted on 01/13/2005 1:55:32 PM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Petronski
"What about watching a movie while waiting for the harddrive backup to finish?"

Because it's hell on system resources. I'm a P4 2.8Ghz, 1GB RAM, and I wouldn't dare try that.

"DVD-ROM drives are 35 bucks, why not have a second?"

Because it's a waste of $35. You're talking to a dirt-poor college kid here. I'd rather put the extra $35 towards a new TV than a second DVD drive.
99 posted on 01/13/2005 1:55:39 PM PST by Terpfen (Gore/Sharpton '08: it's Al-right!)
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To: Question_Assumptions

Macs have a place, but if you are intrested in speed and compatability in a home computer with a reasonable cost, PCs are the only way to go. Even though I listed the ATI 9800 Pro and the SB you can still add the latest and greatest hardware and still be 800 bucks under the MAC G5 with better all around performance.
And as far as the old MAC never screw up fable, 99.9% of computer trouble is due to the user and not the hardware.


100 posted on 01/13/2005 1:57:11 PM PST by Wooly
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