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To: cubreporter

Well said. Old Joe had no class. Few of his kids did. In one sense, Joe's horrible lack of soul led to many deaths: Kick was excommunicated from the family and died in a crash (parents at her funeral?); Joe Jr. died proving he was as good as Jack, whose heroism was faked; Rosemary was semi-murdered with a lobotomy when her father needed one instead; JFK and Bobby died for having a mobster as a father (in my opinion); Ted was totally neglected because Joe wanted one more kid for his litter and Rose made a deal. Ted's lack of character, proven many times over, caused the death of Mary Jo Kopechne.


71 posted on 01/13/2005 2:54:45 PM PST by sine_nomine (Remember the unborn children, the weakest of the weak.)
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To: sine_nomine

Thank you. They jsut all lived such shameful lives EXCEPT the girls...they all remained honorable and respectable. I think they probably never had much of a say in their family until they married and left that house of horrors.


75 posted on 01/13/2005 3:54:17 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: sine_nomine

Thank you. They jsut all lived such shameful lives EXCEPT the girls...they all remained honorable and respectable. I think they probably never had much of a say in their family until they married and left that house of horrors.


76 posted on 01/13/2005 3:54:17 PM PST by cubreporter
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To: sine_nomine

Teddy wasn't born because of Joe's want of children....Rose did not believe in sex outside of procreation...so, that is why they had so many children.

Catholic doctrine states that sex for recreation, even in marriage, is a sin. One must be trying to create life to participate. This is why birth control is also a sin.

And I believe that Joe Jr. was killed before Jack's heroics.

This family was like the Mendlebaums...."it's go time!"


86 posted on 01/13/2005 5:09:02 PM PST by tuckrdout (I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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