[newgeezer]

My # 32 is for you, too.

After you read that, just to avoid any possible misunderstanding, know that I believe property owners have the right to set whatever rules they want with regard to whether and where smoking is permitted on their property. (On public property, the public decides, either through a ballot initiative or by proxy through their elected officials.)

[Just another Joe]

I understand your point and agree about public property.
A ballot initiative or the vote of elected officials is more than enough to ban smoking on public property.
And although it's going a bit far because its outdoors, I would say this includes parks, beaches, etc that are owned by the government.

When we talk about privately owned businesses, however, the government has gone too far already.