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To: robowombat; jcb8199; AdamSelene235; Bean Counter
This same exact thread was posted on the 9th, so i shall just copy and paste the comments i made then:

From the article: Dr. Konotey-Ahulu from the Cromwell Hospital in London expresses a similar view: 'Today, because of AIDS, it seems that Africans are not allowed to die from these conditions [from which they used to die before the AIDS era] any longer. If tens of thousands are dying from AIDS (and Africans do not cremate their dead) where are the graves?'

This is BS, and the reason for that is that the guy is trying to push his opinion through any means necessary (including lies and outright deception). He asks where the graves are? Well, in many areas (for example in Uganda during the early to mid 90s and Southern Africa from the mid-90s to current) whole areas have been depopulated by AIDS. In Uganda the situation was exceedingly dire, because the parents would be killed and the children would be raised by the grandparents. A whole generation virtually disappeared in some places, and there were entire villages that had children being raised by the elderly.

Oh, and there were graves to boot! In some cases acres of graves.

Fortunately Uganda undertook serious steps to proliferate health awareness, and they did this by mixing both religious exhortations (eg be a good Christian and stop promiscuous sex) plus one of the most extensive safe-sex programs in the world, and that country literally saved itself! Unfortunately the same cannot be said for the Southern African nations (eg Namibia, South Africa etc). There AIDS is still chugging along at terminal speed.

As for the affliction not being caused by HIV that is also nonsense. Not all of Africa is bushland! Test kits do exist, and many people do get tested. The major difference between AIDS in Africa and the West is the disease that actually kills the person in the end. In Africa it is usually stuff like tuberculosis and malaria that ravage the weakened body. Also they die faster due to nutritional deficiencies and lack of medicines. In the west things like malaria are not to be found commonly, and tuberculosis (though present) is not even near the killer it is in the tropics.

Now, ONE THING i will agree with the good doctor on is that AIDS is used as a rallying call for external funds by many of the afflicted nations. Through it they can have the West send billions of dollars, a good portion of which 'disappears' in a manner that would make even Copperfield envious! Many countries in Africa and Asia that are afflicted with AIDS pandemics use the disease asa rallying call for funds (funds that tend to be siphoned off to personal Swiss bank accounts)

But saying that it has not killed many because there are 'no graves' is just plain stupid. And it means that the good doctor has not seen what the heck has happened in some of those countries there.

6 posted on 01/13/2005 11:50:30 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
In Africa it is usually stuff like tuberculosis and malaria that ravage the weakened body. Also they die faster due to nutritional deficiencies and lack of medicines. In the west things like malaria are not to be found commonly, and tuberculosis (though present) is not even near the killer it is in the tropics.

Given that nobody has even shown how HIV causes AIDS how can you tell these people arent simply dying of malaria,TB, and malnutrition like they have been for centuries?

7 posted on 01/13/2005 11:58:02 AM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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