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To: AdamSelene235
You haven't shown me any data on the subject.

Geez!

As you can see from the above quotes, you can't keep your story straight. I'm willing to listen but when you go from telling me that all sexually mature adults are wiped out to only 25% are infected, your credibility suffers.

Geez raised to the nth power! There are villages where the only people to be found are grandparents takign care of their grandkids. That is true. And the hardest hit nations (specifically those in Southern Africa) have at most a 25% infection rate. There is a difference between 'infectio rates' and 'wipeouts.' Please read my post well before you try to make a straw man out of it.

I'm afraid I don't know what "legitimate" means in this context. Both are primarily political not scientific.

Wow, i specifically chose the president's statements, as well as the CDC, and your answer is that they are both political and not scientific sources. I can see how the president would be a political source, but why would Bush lie? And as for the CDC .....calling it a political source and not a scientific one, YET you provide links to scientists who are regarded as 'renegade'(to be polite) by the main scientific body, just goes to show your myopia. You have made it up in your mind that AIDS is a farce and the dead were merely killed by nothing more than normal ailments. And nothing i can do or say would change that view.

Which is why you would discount the findings of the CDC as merely 'political.'

But the good thing is other Freepers will look at both our posts. And they will make up their own minds. And i doubt most of them will think president Bush is cooking up his fact sheets, or that the CDC is a political puppet.

15 posted on 01/13/2005 2:28:13 PM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear tipped ICBMs: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol.)
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To: spetznaz
And as for the CDC .....calling it a political source and not a scientific one, )

The fact is that HIV was established to be the cause of AIDS politically by the NIH before this was demonstrated scientifically (which has not been done to this date).

YET you provide links to scientists who are regarded as 'renegade'(to be politeby the main scientific body,

Science is not a democracy. Renegade has no scientific meaning, its a term of social not scientific derision.

One of the renegades is pretty much the father of modern retrovirology, another is the Nobel prize winner who invented the Polymerase chain reaction, another is Emeritus Professor of Molecular Biology and Virology, Max-Planck-Institutes for Biochemy, München, another spent years working on AIDS drugs before he decided HIV was not the cause.

There are hundreds more.

Which is why you would discount the findings of the CDC as merely 'political.'

FYI, the CDC has claimed gun control is a health issue.

You have made it up in your mind that AIDS is a farce and the dead were merely killed by nothing more than normal ailments. And nothing i can do or say would change that view

No I have not. I have NO IDEA what is killing these people, it is *you* who are insisting that it is HIV.

Again, why do you believe that?

16 posted on 01/13/2005 4:18:00 PM PST by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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