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To: JoJo Gunn; Arrowhead1952; Conspiracy Guy; OSHA

I'm sorry, JoJo Gunn, I didn't mean to imply that you or anyone else was a hypocrite for supporting capital punishment while opposing abortion. I was only talking about my own heart, my own coming to understanding on how I feel about two extrememly important issues. There's enough hypocrisy in my own life that I can't go accusing it in others. It was my mistake for not making that more clear.

Am I a troll? I dunno. Depends on your definition. I think the modern conservative movement is in danger of stagnating with too much "me too!" and not enough of asking why we individuals believe the things we do. The two threads I've posted to are things I believe passionately about with beliefs not held by a large number of people here. I can see that people hold their beliefs very dearly, but less clear is why they hold the beliefs they do, beyond the "I'm just right, they're just wrong" rhetoric.

It's certainly possible that other people's views make more sense than my own, and I want to see that. However, if FR is meant to be a place where unified conservatives can discuss things without outside intrusion by dissenters, that's wonderful. I'll fade into oblivion, everyone will say "good riddance" and life will be back to normal by Inaguration Day.

As for writing too much, well, that's a habit I've always had. My views are very important to me, and I want to set them down as clearly as possible. I can't persuade anyone with just a sentence.

Thanks for the welcome, OSHA.


239 posted on 01/13/2005 1:19:54 PM PST by zephyrduck
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To: zephyrduck

I prefer to be vague or obtuse. But to each his own.


240 posted on 01/13/2005 1:26:16 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Could someone tell me how to set up a tagline? Any help is appreciated. Thanks)
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To: zephyrduck
(There, did that last sentence help win me some credibility around here? (grin))

Trying too hard?

That sounds like a pretty strong condemnation of captial punishment to me. But then again, I'm just a lowly Catholic who doesn't have the bible memorized chapter and verse.

Self deprecation or backhanded slap disguised as such?

(Bible quote is from the King James Version as to cause a mimimum of consternation from the more evangelical members on this board.

What was the need for this statement?

I'll make the snippy responses for all of you, so that you don't have to: "Oh, he's a meteorologist, he's used to being wrong!" "He said he was a student in Wisconsin. Stupid hippy Madison liberals." Uh..that's all I've got. I know the rest of you can do better.

From your very first post here. You expecting friction already? Why?

Do I think you are a troll? No. But I've been wrong before. Like I said, time will tell.

242 posted on 01/13/2005 1:37:38 PM PST by OSHA (Moosenami - Waves of crazed moose thought to be caused by earthquakes deep under the fjords.)
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To: zephyrduck; hellinahandcart

Well, at least you're honest about it.

I'm not 100 percent against abortion, and only a fool would be. For example, I can't speak for the ones due to medical dangers.

I don't however, like the idea that a woman who didn't have the common sense to keep her knees together on a lonely Saturday night should have the total convenience of skipping down to the local Abortions R Us and having her innards vacuumed out angst free.

There are too many philosophical differences between abortion and murderers like Tucker to make a sweeping comparison.


245 posted on 01/13/2005 2:01:29 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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