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So...this article brings up a number of important points. A couple of the most infuriating hypocrisies of conservatives and Bush in particular are the so-called respect for life (Pro-Life) yet unwavering support of the DEATH penalty and the invocation of God in the support of both. It is completely incongruous. Ever since I first encountered Sister Helen Prejean, I realized it is completely and utterly absurd to call yourself a religious person and support the Death Penalty. To say you believe in the power of forgiveness and turn around and show incalculable vengeance makes no sense. That's point one. The other thing implicit in this article, not having to do with religion is the role of our soon to be Attorney General in Bush's decision making process. Like Cheney, Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld, Gonzales tells Bush what he wants to hear. These 30-minute clemency updates show how the torture memos came to be. Thus, we have a group of people with little to no respect for life (torture, vengeance, war) and nobody in the circle to question this. We already are a culture of death blinded to believe in optimism when every decision we make results in bloodshed, the fact that those who run our country continue to insulate themselves is that much more frightening.
1 posted on 01/13/2005 8:55:46 AM PST by Pinko
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This has to be my earliest post on a ZOT thread. I'm so excited. Sorry...no cute kitty pictures from me though...do I smell something or is this a false alarm?...all your Zot's are belong to us....any other cliches I can mention?


32 posted on 01/13/2005 9:09:44 AM PST by PjhCPA (Armed with what?.....SPITBALLS!!!)
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Why is my hair sticking straight up? Uh-oh. Look out! Here it comes!


33 posted on 01/13/2005 9:09:53 AM PST by JustRight
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Dead troll walking?


34 posted on 01/13/2005 9:09:57 AM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel
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Sit down, you need a rest!


35 posted on 01/13/2005 9:09:59 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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What are your views on abortion?

Let me guess...pro baby killing??

37 posted on 01/13/2005 9:10:51 AM PST by Walkin Man
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When you post used kitty litter like this, you become cat food.


38 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:01 AM PST by ex 98C MI Dude (Proud Member of the Reagan Republicans)
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40 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:13 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Rap - the other Disco)
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What was the mentally handicapped fellow that Clinton let be executed? I forget the poor fellow's name....


41 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:18 AM PST by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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So, how do you resolve the incongruity of supporting the murder of infants while wetting yourself over the death penalty?


42 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:18 AM PST by kenth (Tagline not fit for human consumption.)
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Pinko, The Bible records that Jesus specifically spoke out against greed, lust, adultery, hypocrisy, lack of faith, and other sins. Yet even though the death penalty was widely used in his day, he didn't say a word about forbidding it. The Bible forbids the death penalty about the same way the Constitution says you have a right to an abortion---not at all.


43 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:27 AM PST by mark502inf
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You, my dear, are a clown, along with being a pinko
 

44 posted on 01/13/2005 9:11:37 AM PST by backinthefold ( Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?)
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So an infant in a womb and a serial killer are the same thing to you? You aren't making moral judgments here, kid, you're avoiding them.


45 posted on 01/13/2005 9:12:28 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Abortion and capital punishment are two different questions.

Abortion is a question of when a fetus has the same right to life as a newborn baby. Capital punishment is a question of whether certain acts are so heinous as to merit putting to death the person who does them, as well as what level of evidence is necessary to carry out an execution.

More simply put, abortion is a question of legal status; capital punishment is a question of legal consequences.


47 posted on 01/13/2005 9:12:53 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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I'm a conservative and am apposed to the death penalty for criminals in America. There are many others. On the battle field and in war is obviously a totally different story.

So what else do you have.

Can't argue with the culture of death distinction. But I doubt you really care about a million people murdered each year. You'd never work with conservatives to see it stopped. You'd have more fun enabling the leftists and their destructive pursuits.

48 posted on 01/13/2005 9:13:29 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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I realized it is completely and utterly absurd to call yourself a religious person and support the Death Penalty.

That is not a "realization"... it's an assertion. And one you have yet to support.

I can quote chapter and verse the justification for my position. What can you cite without inference to support yours?

51 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:07 AM PST by papertyger
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53 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:19 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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Abortion is the killing of an innocent child.

Capital punishment is killing of a guilty person.

How can you be for killing an innocent baby and against killing a violent murderer?

55 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:31 AM PST by airborne (Dear Lord, please be with my family in Iraq. Keep them close to You and safely in Your arms.)
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Richard Speck who murdered several Catholic nurses had the following in prison: sex, drugs and rock and roll.

Sister Pompous didn't object.

56 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:37 AM PST by aculeus
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Abortion = killing the innocent (murder)

Death Penalty = killing the guilty (justice)

If you can't see why a God-Fearing person can't be for both, then you haven't read a Bible. Captial punishment and Murder are not the same thing.


57 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:43 AM PST by dfwright (Why, my mental facilities are TWICE what your's are..... ya peabrain! [mcleach])
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Blah, blah blah. Move along...nothing to see here (but a good ZOT!) :-)


58 posted on 01/13/2005 9:14:48 AM PST by arizonarachel (countdown to wedding day: T-minus 156 days & counting!)
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