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Men Just Want Mommy
New York Times ^ | January 13, 2005 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 01/13/2005 4:53:28 AM PST by Jim Noble

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To: feedback doctor
I must promote a great book here. It's "For Women Only" by Sahuntai Feldhahn. For any woman who reads it, it will change her life and her husbands life.

What does it say? "Kill your husband"?

101 posted on 01/13/2005 6:18:22 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: grellis
re: "equals"

What BS, huh? If there is one thing mating is NOT about it's men and women being "equals." The whole tone of this article is very sad. Maureen makes it sound like choosing a woman with strong maternal and nurturing qualities is somehow moving down a step. She needs professional help. It's actually VERY feminine and very normal when a woman mothers her man. Welcome to reality, Ms. Dowd. And the world of...um...nature.

Geeez, Maureen, sex is NOT about competing with the man or trying to be an "equal."

102 posted on 01/13/2005 6:19:50 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Sarajevo

Send her 2 dozen red roses right now.


103 posted on 01/13/2005 6:20:54 AM PST by Liz (Wise men are instructed by reason; lesser men, by experience; the ignorant, by necessity. Cicero)
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To: Jim Noble
women who challenge men are in trouble

How interesting is the way that thought is presented: "challenge" men?

They still don't get it.

How about smart men have more sense then to marry a fool.

104 posted on 01/13/2005 6:21:02 AM PST by Age of Reason
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To: lentulusgracchus

Movie reference.


105 posted on 01/13/2005 6:21:41 AM PST by Rebelbase (Who is General Chat?)
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To: HamiltonJay
There is a difference, as wide as the pacific ocean though between being a strong woman, and being a bitch. The first is never the second, and the second always thinks she's the first.

Make that into a poster or bumper sticker and retire. It is destined to become a classic line.

Shalom.

106 posted on 01/13/2005 6:22:14 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Jim Noble
This is the first funny Dowd column I have read.
107 posted on 01/13/2005 6:22:19 AM PST by Max Combined
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To: Liz
Done!
108 posted on 01/13/2005 6:22:46 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: Pondman88
They wanted careers, they got them now, and guess what--working sucks.

Yes.... and women always seem to have 'careers' whereas men have 'jobs'!

109 posted on 01/13/2005 6:23:30 AM PST by Rummyfan
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To: FrankWild

That first sentence is hilariously false.


110 posted on 01/13/2005 6:23:45 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: zoobee; AshfieldK; Gabz; Tax-chick; AppyPappy; BibChr
I have yet to meet a guy who wants a wife--a lifelong mate--just to cook, clean, and take care of them. Such a man is so obscurely rare I would dub him unique.

I believe that MOST men want a woman who is kind, a woman who is intelligent (or sensible), a woman who shares his interests...if he is fortunate enough to meet that woman and she WANTS to cook, clean, and take care of him...well, where is the problem? These are not bad things. I do the bulk of the housework, including taking out the trash and mowing the lawn, as well as the typical "housewife" chores--the cooking, the cleaning, the laundry, being the primary caregiver to our children. I take care of our finances. I write the thank-you cards. I push the vacuum and scrub the toilets. I am a willing partner in the biblical sense (wink). I do not ever look upon these things as drudgery. I do them because I love my husband and I love our family. Do you want to know what I get in return?

I get a nice house and a new van. I get the occasional bit of sparkly for my wrist or neckline. I get control of the remote (unless there is a Tigers game on, but I can live with that). I get lots of stuff...but its not about the stuff.

I get a best friend and a devoted lover. I get a kind man who draws a nice, hot bath for me when he knows, without my saying, that I have had a tough day. I get to hang out with someone who likes to go for hikes, loves to play Scrabble, rummy, and Trivial Pursuit. I get someone who is willing to put up with my stubborn streak and my Neil Diamond/Barry Manilow obsessions (FWIW, I put up with ABBA and the Bee Gees).

What I get is the sun, the moon and the stars.

Happy (early) Valentines Day, Ash!

111 posted on 01/13/2005 6:24:02 AM PST by grellis (#47,569 11-29-00. See? I made it easy for ya!)
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To: Jeff Blogworthy
Here's the kicker:

In all those great Tracy/Hepburn movies more than a half-century ago, it was the snap and crackle of a romance between equals that was so exciting.

Citing the butch ballbuster Katherine Hepburn as an example sort of says it all here. Sad.

112 posted on 01/13/2005 6:25:38 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Nataku X

Yes,she does need a shrink. She does sound bitter. I know plenty of powerful smart men who married powerful smart women.

Dowd is unable to see any other reality about men and women beyond the warped and erroneous one she holds in her head.


113 posted on 01/13/2005 6:25:41 AM PST by somerville
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To: grellis

Bad news. Here's the list of what men want:

Good sex
Comfortable shoes
A warm place to take a dump

That's pretty much it. And at some point, #1 gets tossed out.


114 posted on 01/13/2005 6:26:50 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Jim Noble
The wife, played by Téa Leoni, is repellent: a jangly, yakking, overachieving, overexercised, unfaithful, shallow she-monster who has just lost her job with a commercial design firm.

Maureen, honey, stop being so self-depreciating. This really is a glimpse into the feminist persona - lots of women in offices all over America that fit this description (though she left off the "children as pets, have-em-n-leave-em with daycare" mentality). Who wants to spend their life with that?!?!
115 posted on 01/13/2005 6:27:00 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Carolinamom

Exactly and anyone who has a few neurons firing understands that running a home, particularly with children IS A FULL TIME AND DEMANDING JOB, WHEN DONE PROPERLY! There is no way a thinking and serious person can say, "Hey.. I work 80 hours a week, in a high stress environment, I want to marry another person who works 80 hours a week in a high stress environment so we can raise a family and nothing will have to give."

Reality is you know going in that if you do that, your children, home and relationship WILL SUFFER! If you have to make an appointment with a secretary just to see your spouse, you don't have a marriage.

I am so sick of this "men are small minded pigs and can't handle strong women" nonsense. Some of the strongest women I have ever known in my life were housewives, and feminists would never respect them because they don't buy into their bogus bill of sale.

A Strong woman is not a bitch, and a strong woman is not a woman who is running around berating those around her, that is a DOMINEERING woman... and a Domineering woman is not a strong woman.

I don't know where these folks get off trying to portray a graceful woman who puts her family above all other things and commits herself to that that she is somehow weak or subjugated. A truly strong woman is respected by the men around her because she has earned their respect, she has no need to demand it. She puts others before herself, not because they demand she does, but because she chooses to.. and those around her appreciate her for it and do their best to put her before them as well.. not because they HAVE to, but because they too want to.

Feminists and others confuse being a bitch with being strong.. when in fact, being a bitch is simply compensating for the fact they are indeed not strong at all, only narcissistic and weak.


116 posted on 01/13/2005 6:28:18 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: ArGee

Good Idea...

Public Notice, I am claiming the Copyright on:

"There is a difference, as wide as the pacific ocean though between being a strong woman, and being a bitch. The first is never the second, and the second always thinks she's the first."


117 posted on 01/13/2005 6:30:04 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Quinotto
A woman is kind and sweet only if she walks 3 feet behind them(barefoot and pregnant)!

I don't think you understand. A woman is kind and sweet if she asks, "Can I help you?" as often as she asks, "Can you do something for me?".

The difference only has to do with selfishness, not intelligence, career path, looks, or walking location.

Sweet women care about their husbands. B!tches care about themselves.

Shalom.

118 posted on 01/13/2005 6:30:44 AM PST by ArGee (After 517, the abolition of man is complete)
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To: Nataku X

Maureen, you have a cruel little mouth and you only use it to inflict pain. I stopped reading your column a long time ago because it was only about you. How boring.


119 posted on 01/13/2005 6:30:46 AM PST by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: Jim Noble

I guess I'm confused about the conclusions reached in this article. If men are marrying these women that are there "subordinates" (as an aside just because you are someones superior in a corporation doesn't make you actually superior) wouldn't the inverse be true as well? Namely that these women are attracted to strong men?

If both the men and the women are happy why is the author complaining? Oh wait...how is her marriage?


120 posted on 01/13/2005 6:31:13 AM PST by Durus
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