[Salamander]

I never saw any flowery stuff.
Dad worked second shift and he'd come home and drag me outta bed on a school night and show me what he'd just learned.
A year of my life was spent as a somnambulent practice dummy....;)

[SirLurkedalot]

LOL My uncle was an Alameda County Sherrifs Deputy for 23 yrs (retired for about 5 now). Every damn wrist lock, throw, hold, pain-compliance...you name it, me or an unlucky relative had it "tried out" on them.I've used several of them doing security or bouncing. Tossed my Dad over a couch by his throat and jewels one Christmas morning. I got that on VHS. Gotta split, have a good night/morning and God Bless.