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Governor critical of Mexican manual (Arizona)
Sierra Vista Herald, Sierra Vista Arizona ^ | 01/12/04 | Bill Hess

Posted on 01/12/2005 3:43:48 PM PST by SandRat

PHOENIX - A pamphlet put out by the Mexican government that purports to be a safety manual for those who cross the border illegally is harming Arizona, Gov. Janet Napolitano said Tuesday.

The government of Mexico is interfering with the state's security, she said in a telephone interview with the Herald/Review.

"It's a how to illegally cross, not how to legally enter (the United States)," she said.

The pamphlet prepared by the Mexican government is being inserted into a popular comic book and handed out to Mexican citizens living in some of the poorer states of Mexico.

Francis McWilliams, a Sierra Vista resident who lived in Mexico for a number of years, and Glenn Spencer the founder of the American Border Patrol, agree with Napolitano's view of the manual.

McWilliams said the guide for Mexican immigrants "is indeed a poke in the eye" to the United States.

"Our somnambulant U.S. State Department has not uttered a whimper in protest," he said.

Spencer said the governor is right in calling the pamphlet a how-to instruction book.

"The governor's descriptive powers are excellent. That's what it is," he said.

On the other hand, Douglas Mayor Ray Borane said 95 percent of the pamphlet deals with safety and health issues and 5 percent of it "steps over the bounds," with Mexico giving implied encouragement to illegal immigrants.

"I don't like the fact about how to get away from the (U.S.) Border Patrol," he said.

State Rep. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican who represents District 18, said the guide tells Mexicans how to cross the border illegally.

"It's outrageous. It shows disrespect and contempt for our (U.S.) laws," he said.

The book was published by the Mexican government late last year.

In her State of the State speech Monday before the Arizona Legislature, Napolitano said federal politicians in Washington, D.C., are not meeting their responsibilities in controlling the border.

"Arizona has more people illegally crossing our southern border than the other three border states (California, New Mexico and Texas) combined. It is time for the national government to step in, devote the resources and do its job of protecting the border," she told the legislators.

In the last federal fiscal year - Oct. 1, 2003 through Sept. 30, 2004 - nearly 490,000 illegal immigrants were apprehended by Border Patrol agents in the Tucson Sector, a region that includes all of Arizona, except for the far western area near Yuma. Of that number more than 235,000 were taken into custody in Cochise County, a region that shares 83 miles of the border with Mexico.

The border, which the governor said is broken, "has real financial consequences" for Arizona.

"Did you know that today, Arizona taxpayers pay to imprison nearly 4,000 people who were already here illegally and broke our state laws? Federal law requires the federal government to either pay for these prisoners or take them off our hands," Napolitano said in her speech.

During the interview, she said it cost about $23,000 a year for people in confinement. Based on 4,000 illegal immigrant inmates that equates to $92 million annually.

The governor also said the state is short 4,000 beds. If Arizona did not have to imprison illegal immigrants, there would be less of a need to build new jails or prisons, she said. This is a problem that faces the state.

In October, Napolitano requested that the U.S. attorney general reimburse Arizona for illegal immigrants who are prisoners. She said she received an unacceptable answer in which the federal government questioned the cost for reimbursement. The federal government has provided some reimbursement, but the governor called it a "pittance."

If the U.S. government is not going to pay the full cost, as required by federal law, she wants the federal government to take control of the illegal immigrants prisoners.

"I'm willing to take them any place the feds designate," Napolitano said.

But the problem isn't only for the U.S. government.

"It is time for the Mexican government to do its part to control illegal immigration," the governor told the state's lawmakers.

The U.S. government needs to put more resources - unmanned aerial vehicles, sensors and manpower - along the border, Napolitano told the Herald/Review. That has been an outcry for years, especially by people who live along the international boundary in places such as Cochise County, she said.

For the Mexican federal government to wring their hands, say their hands are tied and that they can't do anything is not the truth, Napolitano said. Mexico can go after the people smugglers and can look into the hotels and their owners that have sprung up in border towns south of the boundary that cater to illegal immigrants, she said.

Spencer, a longtime critic of how the U.S. government, has been handling border issues, said the Mexican government believes that much of the United States really is Mexican territory that needs to be returned to Mexico.

The immigration influx is part of a plan to eventually return the American Southwest to Mexico, he added

He also expressed concerns that President George W. Bush's nominee for U.S. attorney general - Alberto Gonzales - will not support stricter border controls. As for the pamphlet, it is just another tool by the Mexican government to violate U.S. sovereignty, Spencer said.

"It's an aggressive act," he added.

Borane said the pamphlet was an attempt by the Mexican government "to show genuine care for the well-being of its people." However, some of the cartoons and words in the guide are directed on how not to be caught and if caught how to act.

The Mexican government needs "potential revolutionaries" to leave the country, and that is not being recognized, the Douglas mayor said. Most of the people departing Mexico are the poorest and usually the ones who historically start revolutions, he added.

To Pearce, it doesn't matter if the people who are leaving Mexico are looking for work. Arizona must draw the line in the sand, or in this case the border, he said.

Pearce plans to introduce a number of bills during the state Legislature's session in an effort to get a handle on the border. He hopes some of the bills will force the U.S. government's hand.

His bills would require the state to become more actively involved in illegal immigration issue, such as requiring Arizona law enforcement agencies to take part in arresting illegal immigrants, denying bond to those who have committed major felonies and others aimed at making it unpleasant for illegal border crossers to live in Arizona.

McWilliams said Napolitano was right to call on the U.S. government to do more about the out-of-control border situation.

He said the number of apprehensions bantered about by the Border Patrol does not show the full impact because for every illegal immigrant taken into custody five others make it into the United States.

No federal official of the U.S. will ever admit to that number, McWilliams added.

"Immigration laws don't need to be reformed as much as they need to be enforced to the letter of the law. Or they need to be taken off the books," McWilliams said.

Nobody in their right mind wants to consider rescinding existing laws, he said.

"Many elected representatives in Washington would agree with me, but unfortunately they are unwilling to advocate strict enforcement of immigration laws because they are fearful it would be viewed by certain minorities as racists," McWilliams said.

The population of Mexico has exploded, and the Mexican economy cannot provide jobs for more than half of the young people entering the work force, he said.

When McWilliams was a student at a Mexican university more than a half century ago, the total population of Mexico was 22 million and Mexico City's population was 2 million.

Today, Mexico's population is between 100 million and 110 million and Mexico City's population is 22 million, he said.

Numbers of how many immigrants from Mexico, legal and illegal, who live in the United States is understated, he said.

At least 20 million live in the United States, which is nearly the entire population of Mexico in 1950, McWilliams said.

Between $15 billion and $20 billion is sent to Mexico by Mexicans working in the United States, McWilliams said.

As for a new guest-worker program being touted by U.S. Rep. Jim Kolbe, U.S. Sen. John McCain and the president, it is being "ballyhooed about inside the (Washington, D.C.) Beltway (and) are apparently predicated on the belief that jobs Americans won't fill would be offered to Mexicans," he said.

McWilliams said if a new guest-worker program passes and there are 10 million Mexicans looking for jobs but only a million exist in the United States, it is not logical to think that the other 9 million will wait.

"Mexican politicians are not stupid. They took it upon themselves to issue a guide because they realize that so long as our government does not enforce immigration laws, their people are going to head north," McWilliams said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Mexico; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abp; aliens; border; bushamnesty; crime; illegals; invasion; napolitano; phoenix; spencer
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"Immigration laws don't need to be reformed as much as they need to be enforced to the letter of the law. Or they need to be taken off the books," McWilliams said.

At least someone gets it!

State Rep. Russell Pearce, a Mesa Republican who represents District 18, said the guide tells Mexicans how to cross the border illegally.

"It's outrageous. It shows disrespect and contempt for our (U.S.) laws," he said.

Then Do something about it! Call out the State Organized and Unorganized Milita!

1 posted on 01/12/2005 3:43:49 PM PST by SandRat
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To: HiJinx; Spiff; idratherbepainting; JackelopeBreeder; AZHSer; Sabertooth; Marine Inspector; ...

Border Invasion may finally have Arizona Governor's attention.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 3:44:51 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

I must say, I'm rather impressed with the Gov. It's more than I expected.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 3:48:18 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: SandRat

Yeah, someone gets it alright. Gov' Janet has been might quiet about some of her comments which encouraged illegal immigration when she was A.G,


4 posted on 01/12/2005 3:48:29 PM PST by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: mindspy; mysto; holyscroller; ozarkgirl; Outland; Rick Deckard; ZeitgeistSurfer; Klickitat; ...

Progress??


5 posted on 01/12/2005 3:50:41 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: SandRat; Americanwolf

I don't believe it but I finally found something that Jihad Janet and I can agree on!


6 posted on 01/12/2005 3:52:09 PM PST by Americanwolfsbrother (Arizona Population: 6 million; 4 million residents and 2 million invaders.)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

No they are worried that the next comic book printed will caricature the OBL traitors.


7 posted on 01/12/2005 3:54:42 PM PST by junta (junta, "is one uppity cracker")
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To: SandRat
"...by the Mexican government is being inserted into a popular comic book and handed out to Mexican citizens living in some of the poorer states of Mexico."

This would totally p#ss me off, if I were one of these poorer mexicans. Taking on the corrupt narco mexican govt. is a job I think only the American people will/can do.

8 posted on 01/12/2005 4:00:01 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: junta

That sounds like fun!


9 posted on 01/12/2005 4:08:17 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To be honest, I just think La Gubernadora is angling for reelection next year.

Of course, if that's true, it means that at least one politician has discovered that opposing illegal aliens is now politically correct!

10 posted on 01/12/2005 4:13:34 PM PST by HiJinx (www .ProudPatriots.org ~ Operation Valentine's Day ~ 1/1/05 to 1/21/05)
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To: monkeywrench

It's really sad, isn't it? We raise cain with all these countries over "human rights". I guess Mexico is excluded from that because we're solving their human rights problem by bringing it here. This scenario stinks and the saddest thing is that these poor Mexican people are trading chips. How do you get lower than that? These people are supposed to find dignity in that?

Did you hear about a statement V. Fox made yesterday that they were going to be nicer to immigrants from Central America in Mexico now to make their "passage" through Mexico more humane? I heard a blip on the news and that's all.


11 posted on 01/12/2005 4:14:42 PM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

I think someone on another thread mentioned that fox and all the little foxes were going to build shelters to accomodate them on their way north.


12 posted on 01/12/2005 4:23:33 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: SandRat

Treat 'em like strays . . .

Spay and Neuter.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 4:29:57 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: HiJinx
To be honest, I just think La Gubernadora is angling for reelection next year

The Truth.

Jihad Girl knows which way the wind blows and plans to lean with it, a la Slick William.

Once re-elected (gasp! don't say such a thing...) she will go right back to plumping pillows and making life easy for as many lil' buddies from the south that she can usher in...after all, they're her only real constituency.

14 posted on 01/12/2005 5:11:38 PM PST by Regulator (Unless Dykes On Bikes is considered a "constituency" of any size)
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To: SandRat

Sounds like the good Governor has done a flip-flop on the illegals just as Hillary did...

If this plays out, I can see a Dem Congress and House as well as President in the near future...

If they pick up on the China/jobs issue, they'll be there for sure...


15 posted on 01/12/2005 5:11:51 PM PST by Iscool
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To: SandRat
The population of Mexico has exploded, and the Mexican economy cannot provide jobs for more than half of the young people entering the work force

The other truth. At the current rate, Mexico is doubling its population every 25 years or so. The U.S. used to have a similar rate - but not now. Not after we were all lectured in the late '60s to have only "replacement" children, that the U.S. was overpopulated.

Why should we limit ourselves, when our families and ancestors built the country they did, while allowing the children of Mexico to expand without limit, and take over that which our predecessors sacrificed and struggled for? In what way do they deserve it?

Better that our populace expand and hold its own border line, and inherit the wealth and liberty that was created. The country was, after all, created "for ourselves and our posterity".

Not Mexico's posterity. They have their own country. They need to make it livable.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 5:25:30 PM PST by Regulator
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To: SandRat; HiJinx; JackelopeBreeder; AZamericonnie; Marine Inspector
Janet is making sense.

She trying to get re-elected or something? I would think so, if she is serious about keeping her job.

17 posted on 01/12/2005 5:47:30 PM PST by kstewskis ( you have to have a mind before you lose it....)
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To: JustAnotherSavage

Don't be impressed with the governor. She just took a page from Hillary Clinton. They are going to make anti-illegal immigration noises for votes... FOR VOTES.


18 posted on 01/12/2005 5:53:34 PM PST by amihow
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To: kstewskis; SandRat

Yes, she is running scared. She knows after the last election that she doesn't have a chance & prop 200 had such wide support she is looking to it as her platform. She's also probably afraid JD will run against her. Regardless she's toast.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 5:54:03 PM PST by AZamericonnie
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To: SandRat
Then Do something about it! Call out the State Organized and Unorganized Milita!

They've called themselves out. ;)

20 posted on 01/12/2005 6:44:34 PM PST by 1_Inch_Group
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