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E-Mail Shows Toll of Crash on Submarine
New York Times ^ | 1/12/2005 | CHRISTOPHER DREW

Posted on 01/12/2005 10:04:25 AM PST by Born Conservative

The nuclear submarine that ran aground Saturday in the South Pacific hit so "incredibly hard" that about 60 of its 137 crew members were injured and the sailor who died was thrown 20 feet by the impact, according to internal Navy e-mail messages sent by a top admiral.

The messages said the submarine's hull was severely damaged after the head-on crash into what Navy officials believe was an undersea mountain that was not on the navigation charts. One message said the submarine, the San Francisco, was traveling at high speed, and the impact practically stopped it in its tracks and caused flooding in parts of the bow.

The messages were written by Rear Adm. Paul F. Sullivan, the commander of submarines in the Pacific. They paint a more dire picture of the accident, which occurred 360 miles southeast of Guam, than had previously been disclosed. They also hint at the extensive efforts to steady the vessel and save the sailor who died.

The e-mail indicated that the Navy had tried to evacuate the fatally injured man, Machinist Mate 2nd Class Joseph A. Ashley, within hours after he had been thrown forward and hit his head on a metal pump, which knocked him unconscious.

Petty Officer Ashley's father, Daniel L. Ashley, said in an interview he had been told that as a helicopter hovered over the choppy seas, crew members could not maneuver a stretcher carrying his son through the submarine's hatches before he died.

"They tried numerous times to maneuver him through various hatches," Mr. Ashley said. "But it just didn't happen."

Admiral Sullivan, who is based in Hawaii, sent the e-mail messages to other Navy officials. As the messages circulated within the submarine community, two people provided copies to The New York Times, and Navy officials confirmed their authenticity.

The e-mail also indicated that about 60 crew members had been injured. All the Navy had said publicly was that 23 crew members were treated for broken bones, cuts and bruises.

The messages said those 23 were hurt seriously enough that they were unable to stand their watch duties as the submarine limped back to Guam. Mr. Ashley said the submarine's captain, Cmdr. Kevin Mooney, told him by phone on Monday that among the injured crew members, "there were a lot of broken fingers, broken arms and legs and one fractured back."

Navy officials said yesterday that the rest of the injuries were minor.

The admiral's e-mail also said an outer hull ripped open at the submarine's nose, causing flooding in a dome with sonar sensors and in four of the ballast tanks used to submerge the vessel or take it to the surface.

The flooding caused the submarine to sit deeper in the water and made it hard to maneuver on the trip back to Guam. Sailors had to keep pumping pressurized air into the tanks to prevent the water from rising and to maintain buoyancy.

An inner hull, which surrounds the crew's living and work spaces, held firm, the e-mail said. The nuclear reactor and critical propulsion systems were not damaged.

In the e-mail, Admiral Sullivan did not discuss why the vessel ran aground. The Navy is investigating, and the admiral, who ultimately will have to decide whether to reprimand any of the submarine's crew members, did not respond to requests for comment.

Navy officials have said that the submarine, which was headed for Australia, appeared to have smashed into an undersea mountain that was not on its charts. Mr. Ashley, who lives in Akron, Ohio, said Commander Mooney told him the same thing on Monday.

"He said, 'On the charts we have, this is a clear area all the way through to Australia,' " Mr. Ashley said.

Navy officials said the San Francisco was traveling at 30 knots when it careened off some part of the undersea mountain range. In one of the e-mail messages, Admiral Sullivan wrote that on impact, the vessel made a "nearly instantaneous deacceleration" to about 4 knots.

Mr. Ashley said Commander Mooney told him that his son had just gotten off watch duty in the engine area and was chatting with other sailors when the accident occurred.

Mr. Ashley said his son, who was 24, "loved the Navy and that submarine" and had just re-enlisted.

Mr. Ashley said Commander Mooney, who could not be reached for comment, also told him that his son's condition seemed to worsen as sailors labored to tilt the stretcher through the evacuation hatch.

Mr. Ashley said that at the end of the conversation, Commander Mooney told him that he took full responsibility for the sailor's death. Mr. Ashley said he replied that he had heard all he needed "to know that you and your crew did everything you could do to save my son's life."


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1 posted on 01/12/2005 10:04:26 AM PST by Born Conservative
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To: Born Conservative

Such a tragedy. But perhaps the C/O isn't in too much hot water if the charts were incorrect.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 10:09:24 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Born Conservative

God bless the sailor. That family is real stand-up as well.


3 posted on 01/12/2005 10:09:40 AM PST by Pondman88
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To: Born Conservative
"an undersea mountain that was not on the navigation charts."

Haven't our subs been equipped with sonar yet?
4 posted on 01/12/2005 10:10:12 AM PST by Patti_ORiley
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To: Born Conservative

None of the cool FReepers use Search anymore.

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

5 posted on 01/12/2005 10:10:35 AM PST by End Times Sentinel ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" –Thomas Paine)
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To: Born Conservative

RIP. The good news is that the vessel could sustain that kind of energy and live.


6 posted on 01/12/2005 10:10:40 AM PST by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: Born Conservative

It's beginning to sound like:
a. it's pure luck this wasn't a loss with all hands, and
b. this hull will probably be a total write-off,
too expensive to repair


7 posted on 01/12/2005 10:11:02 AM PST by Boundless
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To: Born Conservative

Sonar malfunction?


8 posted on 01/12/2005 10:11:31 AM PST by Spok
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To: Pondman88
God bless the sailor. That family is real stand-up as well.

Amen. I just pray that the investigation show an error in the maps is the culprit.
9 posted on 01/12/2005 10:12:35 AM PST by VOA
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To: thefactor

Its irrelevant. The CO's career is cooked. There are few things that you can do worse in the Navy than beach your ship. A Captain is supposed to always know where his ship is and how much water is under his keel charts or no.

He should start getting his resume ready now.


10 posted on 01/12/2005 10:12:43 AM PST by An Old Marine (Freedom isn't Free)
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To: Born Conservative
Interesting that it hit something not on the charts... I wonder if it's possibly a new structure thrown up by the 9.0 earthquake?

NFP

11 posted on 01/12/2005 10:14:59 AM PST by Notforprophet (Democrats have stood their own arguments on their heads so often that they now stand for nothing.)
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To: Patti_ORiley
Haven't our subs been equipped with sonar yet?

Active sonar gives away the location of the sub, and so isn't normally used for submarine navigation.

12 posted on 01/12/2005 10:15:07 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Thanks for the compliment (cool Freeper). I ucked up; I did a search on "nuke submarine" and didn't come up with this article (not sure why I put in "nuke"; probably a brain fart brought on by multi-tasking).


13 posted on 01/12/2005 10:15:53 AM PST by Born Conservative (Those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself." Richard Nixon)
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To: Born Conservative

Subs primarily rely on passive sonar which picks up the noise that other objects make. At high speeds that sonar doesn't work well if at all.


14 posted on 01/12/2005 10:16:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: Born Conservative

Is there any chance this "mountain" was formed or grew larger due to the 9.0 earthquake on 26 Dec? I wonder how much the ocean floor has changed and how far away due to the earthquake.


15 posted on 01/12/2005 10:17:17 AM PST by msnimje
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To: Oberon
Active sonar gives away the location of the sub, and so isn't normally used for submarine navigation.

Plus, it makes the whales deaf.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 10:18:07 AM PST by frithguild (Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on the Exploration an Use of Outer Space - Establish Private Property)
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To: Notforprophet
Interesting that it hit something not on the charts... I wonder if it's possibly a new structure thrown up by the 9.0 earthquake?

Hopefully to forestall a dozen answers: No. The accident happened thousands of miles away, in a different ocean. The recent earthquake couldn't have created a new seafloor feature there.

17 posted on 01/12/2005 10:20:33 AM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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To: Oberon

Well the mountain sure found it easy enough.


18 posted on 01/12/2005 10:20:37 AM PST by Patti_ORiley
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To: An Old Marine

But what about the speed they were going? I assume SONAR is always working but would it have been effective at that speed to find and maneuver around that obstacle? My only points of reference here are Tom Clancy novels.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 10:21:21 AM PST by thefactor
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To: Born Conservative

Machinist Mate 2nd Class Joseph A. Ashley

Ashley, Joseph A., MM2

Eternal father, strong to save
whose arm doth bind the restless wave,
Who bids the mighty ocean deep
its own appointed limits keep;

Oh hear us, when we cry to thee
for those in peril on the sea.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 10:25:27 AM PST by JimRed (Investigate, overturn and prosecute vote fraud in the State of Washington !)
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