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To: NormsRevenge

Boy, I do not understand Arnold. One day I think he is great and the next he comes up with something like this. I guess no politician can satisfy everybody all the time. Keep term limits the way they are.


10 posted on 01/12/2005 9:52:40 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: Uncle Hal

Never fall in love with a politician.

They'll break your heart in the end.


11 posted on 01/12/2005 10:03:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... The War on Terrorism is the ultimate 'faith-based' initiative.)
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To: Uncle Hal
I support term limits, but I agree that they are too short in California. An increase to 5 terms (10 years) for Assembly from the current 3 terms, and an increase to 3 terms (12 years) for State Senate from the current 2 terms, would be reasonable. But only if combined with fair redistricting which created truly competitive seats.

The real problem is finding a way of getting rid of entrenched incumbents who get elected for life. The best way to do that is through fair redistricting, since that gives challengers a real chance. Redistricting also deals with Congressional representatives, who can't be touched by state-mandated term limits.

Even without gerrymandering, incumbents will retain a significant (but not necessarily insurmountable) advantage. That's where term limits can provide some added benefit. It prevents even the most powerful state legislator from becoming ensconced for life. But the present limits are too short, because they are trying to perform the extra function of compensating for the current gerrymandering.

If Arnold can get a fair redistricting plan approved by the voters, that will be a much greater political reform than term limits. And if a modest increase in the existing term limits will mute the opposition to redistricting and help it pass, that's a great trade-off. Indeed, I would consider it a win-win.

14 posted on 01/12/2005 10:16:23 AM PST by dpwiener
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