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High-Tech Industry Becomes a Lower Wage Industry
AmericanEconomicAlert.org ^ | Tuesday, January 11, 2005 | Alan Tonelson

Posted on 01/12/2005 8:02:56 AM PST by Willie Green

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U.S. Wage Trends

Change in median income for technology professionals, 2002-2003: -1.49 percent

Last time this figure declined: 1972

Change in inflation-adjusted median income for technology professionals, 2002-2003: -3.68 percent

Last time this figure declined: 1988

Source: "Incomes of Technical Professionals Decline, IEEE-USA Salary Survey Reveals," IEEE-USA, December 22, 2004


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: eeyore; globalism; hightech; joebtfsplk; thebusheconomy; trade
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1 posted on 01/12/2005 8:02:56 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

I dunno what's up. I'm making dough hand over fist, myself.


2 posted on 01/12/2005 8:04:20 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty

More entry-level admins with AA degrees?


3 posted on 01/12/2005 8:05:44 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor

supply and demand


4 posted on 01/12/2005 8:06:50 AM PST by need_a_screen_name
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To: Willie Green

Part of the problem is that the positions were really inflated in the early to mid 90s. Today, the average user can do almost as much as the experts could do then. I'd bet that the top tier IT professionals didn't suffer the same backwards motion, but it would be odd to keep overpaying people for something that so many can do. The rarity of available experience is what drive wages for any occupation.


5 posted on 01/12/2005 8:07:39 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Willie Green

Up until this year my IT salary was on par with national stats. Now I'm told I make 38% more than average and because of that I'm not getting a raise this year. Instead I will be given what would have been my raise in 2 lump sums over the year.

Is this a prelude to me being laid off for being paid to much?

We'll see!


6 posted on 01/12/2005 8:08:07 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: Willie Green
A result of Object Oriented Point and Click software.

Less command line commands needed

7 posted on 01/12/2005 8:10:16 AM PST by bmwcyle (Washington DC RINO Hunting Guide)
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To: Willie Green
I'm definately in the group hit by this. I have over thirty years experience in the "embedded firmware" trade; however, I don't seem to be worth anything anymore. In only the last five years my salary has slid 25%. I'm pretty good at what I do, and I can generally outperform six younger people. I can write the specifications documents, user manuals, and the software that runs the stuff. The problem seems to be related to the outsourcing of engineering. There just aren't many places that make electronics gizmos anymore.

It seems that just when I "really got good", nobody needed me anymore.

8 posted on 01/12/2005 8:13:58 AM PST by GingisK
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To: funkywbr
Is this a prelude to me being laid off for being paid to much?

Probably. Both the Bush Administration and Congress have you targetted to be squashed like a bug.

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10 posted on 01/12/2005 8:19:28 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

Well I'm gonna fool them as I've already taken care of my own Social Security!~}


11 posted on 01/12/2005 8:21:05 AM PST by funkywbr
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To: Willie Green

Kids who signed up for degrees during the boom years finally entered the job market and found - to the surprise of noone - that they were still too late for the options-millionaire-foosball trip.
That said, I'll bet a fair few of them are doing sterling work cranking out spyware, adware and trojans to slow my system down.
Thanks guys [and gals], AMERICA SALUTES YOU.


12 posted on 01/12/2005 8:22:04 AM PST by johnmilken
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To: Hartranft

If the gov't stayed out of the market, I would agree with you. But they are importing foreign nationals, changing the natural supply in this country.


13 posted on 01/12/2005 8:22:18 AM PST by technochick99
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To: Hartranft
Market forces set the prices.

And the Bush Administration maintains the regulatory shackles that oppress domestic business and industries while allowing (and even encouraging) foreign businesses to hack us off at the knees.

14 posted on 01/12/2005 8:22:52 AM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: Willie Green

The money in high tech these days is in solution customization and rapid exploitation and commercialization of emergent architectures. But the old staples of chips, computers and telecom equipment has fallen into the hands of foreign players, most notably, the Communist Red Chinese.


15 posted on 01/12/2005 8:24:27 AM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: funkywbr
Well I'm gonna fool them as I've already taken care of my own Social Security!~}

Don't tell them you have it or they'll find a way of taking it without you even knowing it's happening.

16 posted on 01/12/2005 8:24:39 AM PST by lewislynn (The meaning of life can be described in one word...Grandchildren)
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To: Willie Green; All
"Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!; aka...master of the 'chicken little thesis')
17 posted on 01/12/2005 8:24:49 AM PST by harpu
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To: Cyber Liberty

No funny money around any more, I remember complete idiots were making six figures and had no idea what they were doing. For a great documentry watch start-up.com


18 posted on 01/12/2005 8:26:25 AM PST by big bad easter bunny (I live so far beyond my means it could be said we life seperately.)
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To: johnmilken; Willie Green

I am one of those guys, but I do not do spyware. I found a job as an Assistant Systems Admin/desktop/hareware support. My wage suck, but I have good benifits. I am streadly working on inproving my skill set. But I do not like one bit the continued influx of H1B's. We need less not more.


19 posted on 01/12/2005 8:27:05 AM PST by TXBSAFH (Never underestimate the power of human stupidity--Robert Heinlein)
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To: trebb

I agree as the industry keep moving to a plug and play world why pay big bucks when you can get it done for pennies. There will be a time in the not so distant future where a janitor will be able to run most IT systems.


20 posted on 01/12/2005 8:27:22 AM PST by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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