Posted on 01/12/2005 7:28:43 AM PST by neverdem
How can they state the last sentence with certainty?
Is that such a difficult concept!!!!!
The anti-gun people are not going to surrender their moral high ground just because of a few facts. No matter how much their position is undermined by these pernicious findings, they are right and they know they are.
But the real agenda was never the control or reduction of crime. The disarming of the civilian population is the singular goal they are pursuing, and with the civilians disarmed, the resistance factor is decidedly much lower.
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Of course, that's the reason for gun control.
This report is important because it will be useful (dare I say possibly instrumental) in allowing us to show those naive misguided souls (like the people with the MMM bumper stickers) that the politicians who support gun control are not do-gooders trying to prevent crime, but evil facists/elitists.
Oh. Wonderful. Now
we have the global warming
people on our side . . .
IIRC, I don't think so. I believe they recommended further study.
But the real agenda was never the control or reduction of crime. The disarming of the civilian population is the singular goal they are pursuing, and with the civilians disarmed, the resistance factor is decidedly much lower.
Anyone who doesn't understand this shouldn't be trusted to operate heavy machinery, raise children, vote, etc. The use of the crime issue and the emphasis on "sporting use" (echoes of Nazi Germany's 1938 weapons law) are just convenient and persuasive (for the useful idiots) means for the string-pullers to accomplish their goal.
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The Second Amendment...
America's Original Homeland Security!
Damn. I thought this was a Peter Sellers thread.
Thanks for the ping Joe. Good article.
That's the problem. Gun control is a religion, not logic. It's one of the several subsects of liberalism. Logic plays no part in their beliefs. The rest of us aren't people who have facts on our side. We're heretics who question their worship of the total state contol.
There are even a number of @$$holes even on this forum who believe in gun control. I won't name any, but most people know who they are.
Ironic, isn't it, that the supreme court case that supposedly allows gun control (miller) claimed that the second amendment didn't apply because a shotgun with a barrel length of less than 18 inches has no military purpouse........(never mind that it was the favorite weapon in the trenches of WWI which was the last war that the U.S. was involved in at the time)
Interesting chart, but co-relation is not causality. Many factors influence criminal behavior, and the prospect of getting killed by a home-owner certainly will make criminals more unwilling to break into homes. Personally I expect that incarcerating more career criminals (e.g. 3 strikes legislation) has more to do with the drop in crime, given that a relatively small number of offenders commit the majority of crimes. Take them out of circulation for long periods of time and the crime rate will certainly fall. That said, it is my opinion that the 2nd Amendment does protect an individual right, and since the 14th Amendment, the states are limited as well. The legal question (imho) is what standard - rational, intermediate, or strict scrutiny should be applied to measure the governmental interests opposing the individual interests. I think the framers spell it out clearly. By definition the militia referred to in the 2nd Amendment has the missions defined in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution ("To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;") then arms which are useful in carrying out these missions are clearly protected as an individual right. A useful shorthand for this (as per the Miller decision) is "whatever arm is used by the army."
It won't be long for "Skeptic" magazine to do a hatchet job on this story and this study.
And isn't it even more ironic that the justification for the federal and various state AWB's is that the banned weapons are "weapons of war?" If anything, Miller protects them (even if semi-auto) far more than so-called "sporting guns"). Further irony occurs when the same people cite Miller as being a justification for gun control, and specifically an AWB. This last bit shows that they either haven't read the case, that their reading comprehension is at about the level of my non-reading 3-year-old or that they're just a bunch of lying sacks of $hit.
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