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U.S. Marines disarm to aid tsunami victims
Seattle Post Intelligence ^ | 1/11/05 | Eric Talmadge

Posted on 01/12/2005 4:55:46 AM PST by 1 spark

ABOARD THE USS BONHOMME RICHARD -- Cpl. Sean Foley looks around the ship's main armory and takes a quick inventory. The room is overflowing with guns. Pistols, sniper rifles, machine guns, grenade launchers.

But for the time being, it's all staying right here.

In an effort to ease the fears of local officials, Marines participating in the humanitarian mission to help Indonesia recover from the earthquake and tsunami that have killed more than 100,000 people on the island of Sumatra have agreed to leave their weapons behind whenever they go ashore.

For many Marines, that's tantamount to traveling naked.

"They didn't even want us to have protection like helmets and body armor, let alone weapons, because it might look threatening," said Foley, of Erie, Pa. "That's crazy."

His concern isn't unfounded.

Though the nearly 2,000 Marines on this ship and another nearby have only just begun to trickle ashore, and are generally returning to the ship each night, the area in which they are operating presents some significant security threats.

Rebels have long been active in this region, so much so that the Indonesian government had largely restricted it from foreigners. Though a lull followed the Dec. 26 disaster, firefights near the provincial capital of Banda Aceh have been reported recently.

"We are concerned," said Col. Tom Greenwood, commanding officer of the 15th Marine Expeditionary Unit, which was diverted from duty in Iraq to join in the humanitarian operation. "The Indonesian government is taking it very seriously."

But Indonesian officials have also been reluctant to let the Marines come ashore with their weapons because of the image that might project.

"We are very concerned about force protection," Greenwood said. "But if you go in there and look like an invading force instead of a humanitarian force, that could be just as detrimental as having no security whatsoever. So you have to balance it."

In the devastated city of Meulaboh, where the Marines are expected to do much of their work and unload the bulk of their relief supplies, heavily armed Indonesian soldiers provide security.

In an exception to the no-weapons orders, Marine helicopter pilots have been allowed to carry their standard protection. Marines have also been careful to maintain close communications with their ship.

Officials stressed, however, that security was in the Indonesians' hands.

"We have full confidence in their ability to provide adequate force protection," said Gunnery Sgt. Robert Knoll, a spokesman for the Marines.

"We won't be using any of these," Cpl. Jeff Austin, of Salt Lake City, Utah, said as he set up a .50 caliber sniper rifle in the armory. "I guess the no weapons rule is understandable, since this is a humanitarian thing. But it's quite a switch for us. Usually, we never leave home without them."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: disarm; marines; tsunamirelief
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To: Feckless

I like the way you think.


41 posted on 01/12/2005 6:28:53 AM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: Onyxx

bump for later discussion


42 posted on 01/12/2005 6:31:36 AM PST by Unknown Freeper
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To: TheForceOfOne
Hi All-

Posted by TheForceOfOne:
"...A soldier should never be without his loaded weapon, also policemen and pilots fit this list..."

You might also want to amend the list to include all law-abiding American citizens who wish to carry a weapon.

~ Blue Jays ~

44 posted on 01/12/2005 6:34:44 AM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Sarajevo

I don't think it's the people we're helping that worries us.

It's the armed "rebels" (read terrorists) in the area that might attack our troops that worry us.


45 posted on 01/12/2005 6:35:04 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

Nope.

Spitballs.


46 posted on 01/12/2005 6:35:07 AM PST by ConservativeMan55 (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: Sarajevo

Some folks tend to forget things so I will refresh your memory, 9/11. It's a completely different world we live in now, and to assume that the "local police" do not have any Muslims who who hate Americans is sheer stupidity. I sure hope it's not your contention that we can now, all of a sudden, trust Muslims.


47 posted on 01/12/2005 6:39:44 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Just Dan

Absolute RAGE ping..


48 posted on 01/12/2005 6:39:46 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: OXENinFLA
We had worries of attacks also, except our worry concerned our "allies", the Turks. The Kurdish Peshmerga set a perimeter around our camp so the Turks would not be able to steal us blind. Needless to say, we slept peacefully at night.
49 posted on 01/12/2005 6:39:55 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Bump for later read. I'm assuming most freepers are as unhappy with this development as we are?


50 posted on 01/12/2005 6:42:38 AM PST by Peach (The Cl intons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: JustAnAmerican

No need to refresh my memory. Check out my "profile" page for a brief resume on my activities.


51 posted on 01/12/2005 6:44:43 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: Sarajevo
You people really irritate me. You sit back in your armchairs, eating pizza and watching the MSM, and decide how an operation should be propogated...I was a member of an SF company that marched into...you haven't a flaming idea of what you are talking about!!!

Do I detect a little arrogance here?

Just because we haven't got all of your vast experience "in the field" doesn't mean we can't have common sense. Possession of guns shouldn't threaten anyone - just those who would possibly perpetrate aggessions. I suppose you're a gun-control advocate too.

52 posted on 01/12/2005 6:48:14 AM PST by Tfran
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To: Peach; All
U.S. forces scale back aid [USS LINCOLN Sails off]
53 posted on 01/12/2005 6:49:33 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: Blue Jays

I stand corrected.


54 posted on 01/12/2005 6:50:11 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Tfran
Arrogance?-Yes, and I do have quite a bit of experience "In The Field". I do have quite a bit of experience on these type of operations. To hear chairbound commandos second guessing the pro's in the military really irritates me.

1 shot-1 kill is adequate gun control.

55 posted on 01/12/2005 6:55:50 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: Sarajevo

Your main page tells me absolutely nothing about why you think we should allow a "Muslim dominated" police force to guard our Marines and remove all weapons and armor from our Marines going ashore.The idiot(s) who made this decision should never have been in a position to make it.


56 posted on 01/12/2005 6:57:54 AM PST by JustAnAmerican (Being Independent means never having to say you're Partisan)
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To: Sarajevo

So, in hindsight, would you have disarmed the sailors on the USS Cole?


57 posted on 01/12/2005 7:01:08 AM PST by CheneyChick
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To: Sarajevo

I would strongly advise all of you armchair commanders who have never been on a humanitarian mission to crawl back into your holes. You listen to the propoganda spewed by the government and you haven't a flaming idea of what you are talking about!!!



I think I can safely speak for my fellow freepers- none of us lives in a hole. We have beliefs, ideas and opinions- as do you.

Your disrespectful approach to "you people" brings you no honor.


58 posted on 01/12/2005 7:02:23 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless our troops.)
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To: JustAnAmerican

Your main page tells me absolutely nothing about why you think we should allow a "Muslim dominated" police force to guard our Marines and remove all weapons and armor from our Marines going ashore.

It's not supposed to.

The idiot(s) who made this decision should never have been in a position to make it.

And you are?.......What are your qualifications to determine exactly what the personnel on the ground need? None, I presume.

59 posted on 01/12/2005 7:03:23 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: SE Mom
I humbly apologize for grouping everyone in one basket.
60 posted on 01/12/2005 7:05:02 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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