Shed kilos with 20 mins more sleep

www.news.com.au ^ | 12 January 2005

[Aussie Dasher]

Only a coma will save Michael Moore and Lard Ass Kennedy!

[TheRatHunter]

Maybe if we wake them up in 300 years, they will have fallen from the obese category by then.

[Nataku X]

Bodybuilders try to get as much sleep as possible and often take naps.

[Yo-Yo]

More sleep = less time to eat!

[billybudd]

You can shed kilos - but can you shed pounds?

[Aussie Dasher]

I'll defer to the scientists on that one!

[beezdotcom]

How can they be sure that the correlation between less sleep and obesity isn't due to the fact that obese people often have trouble sleeping soundly?

[weenie]

As I bicyclist, I work out at least an hour a day, sometimes two, and sleep, while incredible valuable because of its restorative properties, seems to have no effect on my weight.

If losing weight were that easy, I would simply take a bunch of naps...sleep is not THE solution, IMO.

[July 4th]

That's precisely the right question. Note the line in the article.

We caution that this study does not establish a cause-and-effect relationship between restricted sleep and obesity, (but) investigations demonstrating success in weight loss via extensions of sleep would help greatly to establish such a relationship

So essentially, this article tells us nothing, except for reporting on two independent variables with no clear linkage.

[Mr. Blonde]

Sleep alone isn't the answer, but to say that a good nights rest isn't beneficial isn't right. It might not help you lose weight, but it will make you feel better.

[Atlas Sneezed]

How can they be sure that the correlation between less sleep and obesity isn't due to the fact that obese people often have trouble sleeping soundly?

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Bing!

We have today's common-sense science award-winner!

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Algebra:

More Sleep = Less Exercise != Less Weight.

[weenie]

...but to say that a good nights rest isn't beneficial isn't right.

I think I spoke highly of the restorative qualities of sleep.

[Irish_Thatcherite]

Now I get it (post #12) - the mre sleep you have - the more energetic you are the next day ie, more exercise
*slapping hand off my forehead, and saying 'Duh!'*

BTW, welome to FR!. You are the first '05 Freeper I've seen!

[AFreeBird]

Shed kilo's? kilo's of what, pot, coke or some other illegal substance?

[Capriole]

Correlation is not causation. I think they're confusing cause and effect here, to wit:

1. People who exercise tend to get a better quality of sleep, and may sleep a little longer because they're physically tired. But fat people aren't exercising much. In addition, fat people have a tendency to develop sleep apnea or other obstructive respiratory problems so they can't sleep as much at night. So it's not that the lack of sleep is causing obesity; rather, it's that obesity is causing a lack of sleep.

2. Chronic stress can indirectly cause a tendency to gain weight because it makes us release corticosteroids, which alter carbohydrate metabolism. And lack of sleep can come directly from stress. So, again, it's backwards.

[Aussie Dasher]

Makes as much sense as algebra normally does!

[Irish_Thatcherite]

BTW, as you can see from my first post to you - bad punctuation and misspelling - I need a good nights rest! Ha!

[sam_paine]

More Sleep = Less Exercise
More Sleep = Less Eating
Obesity = Poorer Sleep Quality
etc.

Algebra: Too many variables, not enough equations.

[Aussie Dasher]

I think they're talking about LARD.