Posted on 01/11/2005 6:11:00 AM PST by neverdem
| Israeli Women in Fatigues |
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| Posted by neverdem On News/Activism 01/11/2005 9:11:00 AM EST · 62+ views |
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”Guns Before Butter.”
Well given the number of socialists in Israel trying to tear her apart from the inside...
I would not trust any of their 'socialist engineering' PERIOD and would be loathe to see it
applied to the US military....
Of course if it is....I hope they confine this crap to one branch of the service and leave the airborne alone along with spec ops...
Hopefully the Marines will maintain their current level of sanity along such lines and leave social engineering to the leftist college campuses and keep it off the battlefield...
Of course those whose real agenda is to destroy the fighting capability of a military will be all for it...
imo
(raising hand)
MAZEL TOV!
Far different situation in Israel..briefly, to understand the history of women in combat forces in Israel at the time of the founding of the Jewish state, Israel was surrounded on all sides by Arabs whose stated objective was to push Israel into the ocean and kill every Jew..man, woman, and child. The Israeli forces were outnumbered by what, 20:1, 30:1...some ungodly ration. So women were intended to fill whatever non-combat positins they could do, to free up all males for teh the front lines. In Israel, originally, EVERYTHING was the front lines, so that distinction rapidly faded. Also, any female Israeli soldiers that might be captured, would, quite frankly, have been far better off dead, and to that end they needed to be at least somewhat combat capable..firearms..to take out s many SArabs as possible before succumbing themselves...
Ahhhhh! My daily dose of Israeli women in fatigues. It's better than coffee, in getting my day started.
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I disagree. We should adopt it forthwith. The arguement about women in combat would be over.
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Contrary to common contention, Israel does not currently allow women in combat — they've been banned since 1948. But they have a history of integrated fighting there that we can learn from.
Despite Palmach's ideological commitment to radical equality for women, the practical experience of the 1948 war — which involved coordinated, combined arms-offensive actions — convinced the leaders of Israel and the IDF that the dangers of women in combat outweighed the benefits — including commitment to an abstract concept of equality between the sexes. For one thing, according to the late Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan, women reduced the combat effectiveness of Haganah units because men took steps to protect them out of "fear of what the Arabs would do to [the] women if they captured them."
The Israeli case demonstrates that, at least in the past, when confronted by great danger, reasonable people can sacrifice ideology to the dictates of nature. In other words, nature trumps attempts at human engineering.
”Guns Before Butter.”
Believe it or not, Ingrid Bergman played Golda in a made-for-TV movie about her life.
Women in fatigues - ping.
The world is going to leave you behind.
BTTT
"Contrary to common contention, Israel does not currently allow women in combat — they've been banned since 1948. But they have a history of integrated fighting there that we can learn from."
Thats not true, women are allowed to serve in combat duties for some years already.
Today there are few woman pilots and navigators in the IAF. I personaly met one of them.
There are women in other combat units- in both regular (like Police border, "Golani", "Givati") and in elite (the different "Sayarot").
Ping
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