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To: lawdave
Then why did your church do so much evil in the Middle Ages.

Why did you sell absolvance?

Why do you condemn to Purgatory those who Christ taught between Good Friday and Easter? Why do you condemn the babies that die that could not possibly commit any sin?

Why do you not have a Prophet and Apostles?
142 posted on 01/11/2005 11:57:09 AM PST by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: ImphClinton
Then why did your church do so much evil in the Middle Ages. Why did you sell absolvance?

The fact is that God's Church on earth is populated by sinners. Those fallable men made mistakes. This does not impugn the validity of the Church itself. Are you saying that the members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are without sin?

Why do you condemn to Purgatory those who Christ taught between Good Friday and Easter? Why do you condemn the babies that die that could not possibly commit any sin?

Your statements evidence alot of misconceptions about the Catholic Faith. First, we believe that Christ descended into purgatory to preach the gospel to the old testament faithful who were essentially "stored" there. This in fact opened the way to heaven for them. No one was condemned to Purgatory, particularly because purgatory is a transitive place anyway. People who go there are on their way to heaven. As to babies, we leave the issue of babies who cannot have committed a sin to the infinite mercy of God.

Why do you not have a Prophet and Apostles?

The last prophet was John the Baptist. We do have Apostles. We have their successors, the Bishops. The Acts of the Apostles clearly shows that the concept of apostolic succession was contemplated when the remaining Apostles chose Judas' replacement(Mathias). Interestingly, the word "office" used in the relevent passages is translated in the King James version as "bishopric."

145 posted on 01/11/2005 12:35:07 PM PST by lawdave
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To: ImphClinton
Then why did your church do so much evil in the Middle Ages.

Because Catholics are sinners?

Why did Jesus choose Judas to be an Apostle?

Why did you sell absolvance?

Indulgences? See above.

Why do you condemn to Purgatory those who Christ taught between Good Friday and Easter?

Purgatory is a state of purgation or purification prior to entering heaven for those who die with an attachment to sin, but without mortal sin on their souls. It's referenced in Scripture, most notably in 2 Maccabees.

2 Macc. 12:43-45 - the prayers for the dead help free them from sin and help them to the reward of heaven. Those in heaven have no sin, and those in hell can no longer be freed from sin. They are in purgatory. Luther was particularly troubled with these verses because he rejected the age-old teaching of purgatory. As a result, he removed Maccabees from the canon of the Bible.

Otherwise, I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Why do you condemn the babies that die that could not possibly commit any sin?

The Church does not. The Church hopes for their salvation. There does not exist a definitive teaching on the subject. "Limbo" is a theological speculation.

Why do you not have a Prophet and Apostles?

Not sure what you're referring to here. Do you mean a Pope and Apostles?

See Isaiah 22:22 and Matthew 16:19. Jesus gives Peter the keys of the House of David, of which Jesus is the eternal King. Historically (Isaiah 22:22), the keys represented the office of vice-regent (vice-king). The vice-regent wore the key around his neck. The vice-regent enjoyed full plenary authority in the king's absence, and the key represented his office. In Matthew 16:19, Jesus is appointing Peter to this office.

146 posted on 01/11/2005 12:47:24 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: ImphClinton
Lighten up. Let people believe what they wish to believe. Your attitude is the same attitude that got Mormons murdered and raped in Missouri. Review the Articles of Faith, paying particular attention to the one that says We claim the privilege of worshipping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience and allow all other men the same privilege...

It is one thing to respond to criticism. It's another to go on the attack.

When someone isn't interested in the message, the missionaries say: Thank you for your time and move on. Advice you might want to take.

233 posted on 01/12/2005 12:28:54 PM PST by frgoff
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