US official: US-China economic relations have never been better

Xinhuanet ^ | 2005-01-10

[Willie Green]

ping

[Brilliant]

The Chinese ought to start spending some of the dollars they are getting from us.

[Toddsterpatriot]

[nonliberal]

They do. They spend it developing all the weapons systems they stole from our intelligence services during the Clinton Administration.

Bush should yank MFN and, like Reagan, run them till the wheels fall off.

[Noachian]

Our myopic politicians and businessmen are getting very chummy with a communist government whose military and political party still sees America as an enemy.

Just because western businessmen and politicians think the world revolves around the corporate bottom line doesn't mean the Chinese think the same way.

[international american]

I guarantee you they are NOT!

[kingattax]

on what ?......have we started manufacturing anything ?

[neutrino]

Thanks for the ping, Willie Greene.

While it is open to debate whether China has a more open economy, it may will be irrelevant. The United States has largely squandered its manufacturing base. How are we to export goods to China if we do not produce any goods?

[SpaceBar]

I'm sure Ji Shan who was convicted of having a second live birth and was sentenced to six years of hard labor for the state legcuffed to a laser fabric cutting machine is delighted to hear this.

[SpaceBar]

The Chinese ought to start spending some of the dollars they are getting from us.

They do. Pitchblende doesn't grow on trees.

[Toddsterpatriot]

How are we to export goods to China if we do not produce any goods?

So, if we don't produce any goods, aren't the Chinese idiots for accepting our dollars?

[neutrino]

So, if we don't produce any goods, aren't the Chinese idiots for accepting our dollars?

First they build their manufacturing base. Then, after we've disposed of our manufacturing infrastructure, they have an easy, effective way to control us. Or, to defeat us.

That's the difference between long term thinking (the Chinese), versus those deluded fools who lust for cheap, shoddy goods while simpering about lower prices to consumers.

[Toddsterpatriot]

First they build their manufacturing base. Then, after we've disposed of our manufacturing infrastructure, they have an easy, effective way to control us. Or, to defeat us.

You didn't answer the question. Aren't they idiots for accepting our dollars if we make nothing they would buy?

[neutrino]

You didn't answer the question. Aren't they idiots for accepting our dollars if we make nothing they would buy?

On the contrary, I did. It appears my expectations for your understanding were too high. I will, therefore, be careful to spell out my answer.

The Chinese are aiming for a long-term strategy. The decline in the dollar does injure them. However, they are willing to accept this loss to gain a long-term advantage.

Please note that this leads to my earlier answer: First they build their manufacturing base. Then, after we've disposed of our manufacturing infrastructure, they have an easy, effective way to control us. Or, to defeat us.

Further, they can use their collected dollar assets to buy resources; for example, the Wall Street Journal reports that China National Offshore Oil is considering a takeover of Unocal Corp., the ninth-largest oil company in the U.S.

No, the Chinese are not idiots. The free traitors, on the other hand, are.

[LowCountryJoe]

So, we need more government regulation to prevent trading, correct?

[Toddsterpatriot]

So you were wrong, we do make stuff they will buy, oil companies.

[1rudeboy]

on what ?......have we started manufacturing anything ?

Who is "we?" What country do you live in?

[1rudeboy]

Boy, the fact that our manufacturing base has been healthy for 19 straight months (or more) must really steam you.

[investigateworld]

Absolutly:
The prototype ME 109 was powered by a British built engine.
The jet engine that made the MiG a threat to US servicemen (read that "us" as in you and I) was powered by a license built copy of the British NENE engine.
Douglas Aircraft sold the complete plans of the DC-3/C47 to the Imperial Japanese Army in the late 30s.
As late as 1939, Douglas aircraft sold a complete DC-4/C-54 to the IJA. These was after they shot up and bombed our gunboats in China. We meekly accepted cash reparations and the people of Japan and their leaders saw us as a people who were totally money driven.