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You can't make peace with a leader who campaigns against it
Israel Insider ^ | January 9, 2005 | Howard Galganov

Posted on 01/10/2005 10:31:17 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA

Surprise, surprise! Mahmoud Abbas, aka Abu Mazen, aka two-faced Palestinian who received his PHD on his thesis declaring the Holocaust to be a hoax, won the Palestinian election even before the first vote was cast.

Abbas won the Presidential election of the Palestinian people who want it all. They want a Yasser Arafat and a negotiator. So Abbas gave them both.

To his Arab constituents, Abbas campaigned as the HARDLINER. He made it clear as to what he thinks of the "Zionist Entity".

He's already demanded the unconditional release of all Palestinians who are imprisoned by Israel, regardless of their crime. Even murder.

Abbas will accept nothing less than to have the millions of so-called Palestinian "refugees" given the right to return to their homes, or the homes in Israel, of their parents, grandparents, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunts, or cousins.

Even if a home in Israel never existed for them. In that case, they would just claim ownership of the land that was supposedly theirs or their families' prior to 1948.

Abbas then goes on to tell the Israelis, that they don't have the right to go after TERRORISTS, all of whom he refers to as freedom fighters. And he promises the Palestinian murderers and murderer wannabes that he will protect them.

Abbas has said that violence was not, and is not a good strategy against the Israelis. But he never said that killing Jews was somehow morally wrong.

And to remedy his problem with Palestinian killers and thugs, Abbas has invited them to serve in his new security apparatus.

And most of all, in his opinion: Jerusalem is the eternal capital of the Palestinian people.

That's how he speaks to the Palestinians.

To the West, Abbas simply says that he is a man of peace willing to negotiate with Israel.

If Abbas really does try to negotiate with Israel in good faith, he is a dead-man. You can't promise "Philistines" the sun and the moon, and then tell them to settle for a few pebbles. Especially these "Philistines".

And if he tries to pull an Arafat by playing word-games, the Israelis will simply give him the cold shoulder and continue building the security barrier, while they do their level best to bring TERRORIST Palestinian Arabs to justice or their graves.

Mahmoud Abbas is just one more Palestinian who will disappoint everyone and make things worse, not better.

Of that I'm certain. So for me, I hold no anticipation for peace coming from the Palestinians.

The brief history of the Palestinian people is replete with lies, delusion, corruption, and extreme violence.

You simply cannot make peace with people who are not in the peace-making business, and have no concept whatsoever of the most basic of Democratic principles.

Views expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect those of israelinsider.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abbas; boguspeace; israel; pa; paelections; plo
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1 posted on 01/10/2005 10:31:18 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA
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To: SJackson; Salem; Alouette; yonif; Tolik; Yehuda; dennisw; anotherview; American in Israel; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 01/10/2005 10:32:33 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

I don't trust him anymore than I trusted Arafat---I hope when he meets with Bush, Bush looks into HIS eyes and sees the terrorist that he is---just like Arafat.

The whole world is cheering this election, bah, just like Saddam's elections, these people have no clue what a real election is---and the world just wants to not have to deal with this problem right now, while they are busy trying to get Bush out of power, so they will pat him on the back and give him their tacit approval to keep on with the intifada.


3 posted on 01/10/2005 10:36:51 AM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Txsleuth

Me either. Abbas seems like Arafat in an expensive Italian suit. I sure hope that if Bush does meet this character that he does indeed see him for the terrorist he is and stops all the talk of a Philistine state and pressuring Israel and sends Abbas back to Gaza on the next plane.


4 posted on 01/10/2005 10:42:50 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Good article. I've heard it said that this Mahmoud Abbas is playing the part of a hardliner, but will be willing to negotiate in good faith. For the sake of his people, I hope it's true. Israel has shown incredible restraint with these people. If this guy screws them over, he might just overstep the limits of Israel's restraint. In that case, I would hate to be a Palestinian; but hey, they've already been warned.
5 posted on 01/10/2005 10:44:41 AM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Abbas is just the Arafat Mark-II.
Arafat is not the first and not the last who tries to destroy us (check our 4000 years old history).
If its needed to overcome Abbas, we will do so. We had much worser enemies than Arafat or Abbas thats for sure.


6 posted on 01/10/2005 10:49:23 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defence Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

BTTT


7 posted on 01/10/2005 10:51:14 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Convert from ECUSA
Of course Abbas won the election before the first vote was cast. He was the only candidate. He declared Jihad tonight...
8 posted on 01/10/2005 11:13:25 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

I have no doubt that Israel can overcome Abbas if the need arises. But I hate to think what price you all may have to pay if Bush and Company keep pressuring Sharon to give away "land for peace." Yeah, you all have had enemies much worse than Abbas in your history. It would just be nice if for once everyone would stop making it harder for you all to deal with those who are your enemies and ours.


9 posted on 01/10/2005 11:14:24 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: American in Israel

"He declared Jihad tonight..."

Yeh, I know, the lot of them over there declare Jihad everytime a butterfly sneezes! I swear they all must play the same subliminal tapes under their pillows a night. Every time you see the news, some yahoo over there is screaming Jihad at somebody or another.


10 posted on 01/10/2005 11:16:11 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Hopefully Israel won't be that stupid to think Abu Mazn is a voice of moderation


11 posted on 01/10/2005 11:26:26 AM PST by brooklyn dave
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To: Convert from ECUSA; blam; Ernest_at_the_Beach; FairOpinion; ValerieUSA

Thanks C from E. Pingin' a few also.


12 posted on 01/10/2005 11:56:01 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: superskunk

"Israel has shown incredible restraint"

Well said.


13 posted on 01/10/2005 11:57:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

No problem, glad to oblige!


14 posted on 01/10/2005 12:08:40 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Israel has shown incredible restraint"

Well said.


Thank you. Now if we could just get the MSM admit it.
15 posted on 01/10/2005 12:17:10 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA; superskunk

check this out:

Abu Mazen: Little Jihad is Over, Big Jihad Starts
Arutz Sheva ^ | 1-10-05 | Arutz Sheva
Posted on 01/10/2005 8:57:25 AM PST by The Lumster
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1317771/posts


16 posted on 01/10/2005 12:20:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (the US population in the year 2100 will exceed a billion, perhaps even three billion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the link. I hope he's just trying to appease the more radical element of his people. If not, Israel is fully capable of crushing them.


17 posted on 01/10/2005 12:24:42 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: SunkenCiv; superskunk

My comments earlier today at the link you indicated:
"Appearing before cheering crowds last night, Abu Mazen said that the period of the "little Jihad [holy war] had ended, and now the big Jihad is beginning."

My comment number 1: Same ole, same ole, same ole. The PA bunch must listen to the same subliminal BS tapes each night.

"Yisacharov gave a nervous chuckle and said, "I don't think he means a real Jihad, he just means the challenges ahead of reforms in the PA and the release of Palestinian prisoners by Israel...""

My comment number 2: Uh-huh. Yeah. And Santa flies through the air in a sleigh pulled by 10 purple flying hippos.


18 posted on 01/10/2005 12:26:46 PM PST by Convert from ECUSA (tired of shucking and jiving)
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To: Convert from ECUSA

Only time will tell if he's another Arafat. I genuinely hope it's all hype. If not, well, we all no that throughout history, enemies of Israel have suffered God's wrath. Wouldn't want to be them. Look at Egypt. They've been impoverished since the plagues.


19 posted on 01/10/2005 12:33:34 PM PST by superskunk (Quinn's Law: Liberalism always produces the exact opposite of it's stated intent.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot

Wasn't this guy behind the olympic massacre?


20 posted on 01/10/2005 1:10:25 PM PST by Andrew LB
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