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To: ambrose
Big Business Republicans want illegals for cheap labor

Maybe your milage is different than mine, but I don't know of a lot of big companies that want illegals. Immigrants they want, but illegals are too much of a long term liability. I'd wager that small business employs illegals at a rate of at least twenty times as much as big business.

Democrats want new voters.

But Hispanics aren't flocking to the Democrats in numbers they want, and each generation seems to drift farther from them. If they're really interested in new voters, I'd target reducing abortions among blacks, since that's an ethnic group that really seems to stick with them. Heck, ten years from now, I'm not sure who else is going to be in the party anymore.
21 posted on 01/09/2005 1:12:18 AM PST by kingu (Which would you bet on? Iraq and Afghanistan? Or Haiti and Kosovo?)
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To: kingu

"but I don't know of a lot of big companies that want illegals."

WalMart does. So does Tyson Foods. So do the multinational Casinos in Las Vegas. They're large corporations.


24 posted on 01/09/2005 1:19:20 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (We have the best politicians corporate money can buy)
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To: kingu
I'd wager that small business employs illegals at a rate of at least twenty times as much as big business.

It depends upon the industry. Food processing, such as meat packers, use illegals on a massive scale as do the hotel industry, restaurant chains, and corporate ag.

31 posted on 01/09/2005 2:43:47 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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To: kingu

FYI



Going Underground - Barron's
The shadow economy is about to top $1 trillion -- at a great cost to many

By JIM MCTAGUE

AMERICA HAS TWO ECONOMIES, and one is flourishing at the expense of the
other. First, there's the legitimate economy, in which craftsmen are
licensed and employers and employees pay taxes.

Then there's the fast-growing underground economy, where millions of nannies, construction workers and others are paid off-the-books, their incomes largely untaxed.
The best guess as to the size of the output of this shadow economy is about $970 billion, or nearly 9% that of the real economy. It should soon pass $1 trillion.

What is largely fueling the underground economy, experts say, is the
nation's swelling ranks of low-wage illegal immigrants. -snip-very long.


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/soc.culture.romanian/browse_thread/thread/1bb41897c2797fca/a037432e6e83160d?q=%22The+Underground+Labor+Force+Is+Rising+to+the+Surface%22&_done=/groups?q=%22The+Underground+Labor+Force+Is+Rising+to+the+Surface%22%252


47 posted on 01/09/2005 9:20:15 AM PST by JustAnotherSavage (Government spends what government receives plus as much as it can get away with-Milton Friedman)
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To: kingu
Maybe your milage is different than mine, but I don't know of a lot of big companies that want illegals.

Diverse Alliance Supports Comprehensive Immigration Reform

April 21, 2004 Washington, DC – Today, a remarkable alliance of business, labor, religious, ethnic, and immigrant advocacy groups ran a full-page ad ….

The ad text reads in part: “We congratulate President Bush for raising the issue of comprehensive immigration reform, (i.e. amnesty)…

The ad was signed by 24 organizations representing key constituencies covering the political spectrum:

Business: American Health Care Association; American Hotel & Lodging Association; American Nursery & Landscape Association; International Franchise Association; National Council of Chain Restaurants; National Restaurant Association; and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

The businesses listed all benefit from cheap labor. Illegal aliens help cheapen labor, even if the businesses don’t directly employ them. Also, all those millions of illegals are working somewhere, aren’t they?

68 posted on 01/09/2005 2:59:28 PM PST by Plutarch
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