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5 new F/A-22 Raptors land at base
miami.com ^

Posted on 01/08/2005 5:48:14 PM PST by iso

TYNDALL AIR FORCE BASE -- (AP) -- Five more F/A-22 Raptors landed Friday at this Florida Panhandle base where Gen. John P. Jumper, Air Force chief of staff, is among the first pilots being trained to fly the new stealth fighter.

The five Raptors arrived from the Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Co. plant in Marietta, Ga., a day after all F/A-22s were cleared to resume flying for the first time since a Dec. 20 crash at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.

The additional planes increased the number of Raptors at Tyndall to 18, more than half of the 33 now in the Air Force inventory. A 34th plane had been scheduled to arrive but its flight was postponed due to mechanical problems, said Capt. Susan A. Romano, a Tyndall spokeswoman.

Jumper is scheduled to make his final F/A-22 qualification flight here Wednesday.

The planes were grounded as a precaution after the Nellis crash. Safety and accident investigation boards have not disclosed a cause, but Air Force officials said they were confident the jets could be flown safely based on preliminary findings. The pilot suffered scrapes but was otherwise unharmed.

Eight F/A-22s are stationed at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., and seven at Nellis for testing and evaluation. All pilot training is done at Tyndall. Langley Air Force Base, Va., is expected to receive the first operational Raptors this year.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: clubbingbabyseals; fa22raptors; langleyafb; tyndallafb; usaf
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To: Ciexyz

That's on TONIGHT?! CRAP! I was hoping to tape it. I'll have to check if it'll be on again.


121 posted on 01/08/2005 8:32:47 PM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
Since we are posting pics of classic aircraft, ome of my favorites has been the Avro Arrow and the Avro CF-100 Canuck. I'd like to toss in the F-105, F-4 and A-5 Vigilante.



The Arrow is in the foreground and the Canuck is in the background. A cool page to go to is: http://www.spitcrazy.com/avroarrowpage.htm
122 posted on 01/08/2005 8:34:47 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: ProudVet77
A black-hawk flew overhead a couple of days ago at tree top level, my first thought was, don't let it crash. I don't have too much faith in the Black-hawk, mechanically speaking that is.
123 posted on 01/08/2005 8:34:57 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Nowhere Man
It's a pretty plane, I admit I don't know about it, so I can't really comment on the in's and out's of it.

But the A-10, lives in your heart. Ain't no explaining why A-10 lovers have a thing for them, you either do or you don't. I do.

124 posted on 01/08/2005 8:41:51 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: nuconvert

bump


125 posted on 01/08/2005 8:46:05 PM PST by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: pbrown
But the A-10, lives in your heart. Ain't no explaining why A-10 lovers have a thing for them, you either do or you don't. I do.

The A-10 is a cool plane too, theyh ave a distinct, deep sound when they fly over, it's neat. When they fly over to the local airshow here in Pittsburgh, I know it is them. They also scare my poor cats too. B-) The A-10 also has a nickname the Russians call them, "The Devil's Cross" since they tend to look like a cross but they are very lethal too.
126 posted on 01/08/2005 8:46:50 PM PST by Nowhere Man (We have enough youth, how about a Fountain of Smart?)
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To: El Gato

"Air Force aircraft have hooks, just a little lighter than the Navy/Marine ones. Undercarriage is much lighter as well. Compare F-16's gear to that of an F/A-18. The hooks are for engaging the emergency arresting gear at the end of the runway, the departure end, where a landing aircraft, even one with failed brakes, will have slowed considerably."

Hey thanks. Funny, I never noticed hooks on aircraft designed for the AF. Very interesting. I have touched and walked around F16's for instance while developing it's Fire Control Radar System Computer while at Westinghouse years back and just never took notice to it. But I believe you.
We had our own hangers. Even had an old F101 Vodoo believe it or not. F4's used to come in regularly to be outfitted with our ECM pods, AWG-10 Doppler Radar etc., during the NAM years. The only military jet I ever sat in the cockpit of was a F9F. Hah hah. Bet a lot of these folks don't remember the old Navy Panther when I toured Willow Grove NAS when it was a fully active base, got to walk around just off the runway, as the local Marine Fighter Squadron did touch and goes in F8 Crusaders. To this day I am impressed. We (a Sea Explorer group) where just off the runway for at least a half hour, so I got the treat of my life!


127 posted on 01/08/2005 8:51:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: Nowhere Man
You're right. Once you hear them, you don't forget the way they sound. Which is what sends me scurrying when I hear them before they get to my house.
128 posted on 01/08/2005 9:10:25 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: ProudVet77

Nice writeup on the F35 at:
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/jsf/


129 posted on 01/08/2005 9:26:24 PM PST by Marine_Uncle
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To: PhilDragoo

She IS SWEET!


130 posted on 01/08/2005 9:45:32 PM PST by Happy2BMe ("Islam fears democracy worse than anything- If the imams can't control it - they will kill it.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thanks. Found this a bit ago, they have some serious defense people there: http://www.strategypage.com/messageboards/messages/6-8139.asp


131 posted on 01/08/2005 9:53:59 PM PST by ProudVet77 (If it's Saturday, I'm sailing!)
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To: blogbat

" My vote would be the P-38. But I don't believe there are any "in the air" anymore..."

The P38 had a problem with high altitude in cold climates which is why it wasn't used much in Germany. Carburator froze. Fact. Look it up. That said, it was a great plane against the Japanese in WWII, but a little slow for today I would think.


132 posted on 01/08/2005 10:09:19 PM PST by calex59
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To: zarf

ah... but then you see it fly, and your jaw clangs soddenly to the turf.


133 posted on 01/08/2005 10:43:38 PM PST by King Prout (Halloween... not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Ciexyz

I saw it when SciFi premiered it some time ago.
not bad at all - much better than the original show.


134 posted on 01/08/2005 10:45:14 PM PST by King Prout (Halloween... not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: calex59
Slow? Shoot, it could still take out islamofascists running their camels at full steam!
135 posted on 01/08/2005 11:27:00 PM PST by blogbat (Blogbat: ein Fahrgeschäft durch die Weltnachrichten)
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To: Nowhere Man

for interested parties, there's a made-for-TV movie on The Arrow.
I only saw it once on TV here in Los Angeles...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118641/


136 posted on 01/08/2005 11:36:41 PM PST by VOA
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To: Ciexyz
I'm impressed with the new Battlestar Gallactica (and I remember the old one from circa 1978). It's edgier and darker, the Cylons with their long metal digital fingers and red eyes are menacing.

The plotline of the pilot also gives modern America something to think about: an enemy agent infiltrating a military software development project, and planting a bug/backdoor in all the fighter avionics that allows the Cylons to shut down all the fighters during a surprise attack.

We have a lot of foreign nationals in the US today, working on important software

137 posted on 01/09/2005 1:46:51 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (We are going to fight until hell freezes over and then we are going to fight on the ice)
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To: zarf

You need to look at the profile as viewed by a rug pilot who just cranked his neck around and checked 6:00 and noticed it riding his ass.

It looks just fine from that perspective.


138 posted on 01/09/2005 1:56:42 AM PST by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Can you imagine the s+++storm if somebody left them up in the air?

Can you imagine how much we'd save on fuel if you could?

139 posted on 01/09/2005 1:59:13 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm still waiting for this global warming stuff to get to North Dakota.)
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To: BIGLOOK; Tijeras_Slim; FireTrack; Pukin Dog; citabria; B Knotts; kilowhskey; cyphergirl; ...

140 posted on 01/09/2005 2:19:11 AM PST by Aeronaut (Proud to be a monthly donor.)
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