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and I "hate" this mythical supreme being about as much as I hate Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny

Why? Because in your infinite arrogance and pride you think only man is capable of making things? Or because hate is your way of life?

I said for the record, so that there is no doubt. Just as you have my record which says that criminals should be held accountable for their crimes no matter whose side they are on.

"With that said, Kosta, I don't recall ever excusing any crimes perpetrated against Serbs"

Hoplite, if you posted one thread or comment to that effect, condemning specifically a Croat or Muslim or K-Albanian crime, I would believe you. But you won't, so I don't.

As far as the Serbs are concerned, they are my family. I don't know if you have one or if you know what a family is, but suffice it to say that just about every American I have met will tell you that even if your family gets in trouble they are still your family and you support them. That is human nature, Hoplite. That also does not mean that one excuses their excesses. The Serbs who committed crimes need to answer for them, just as all others whose hands have blood should too. Where I do disagree with you is that you maintain the insane idea that Serbs should go to the Hague, but Americans shouldn't. Sorry, equal justice is just that -- it applies equally to all.

As for your delusions of stable democracies in Iraq and Afghanistan, dream on. If you think God is a far fetched idea, Afghanistan beats it hands down. You seem to refuse to admit that Islam and culture is inseparable, that a secular Muslim is an oxymoron, and that Islam and non-Islamic societies are incompatible. Hoping, even expecting, a stable democratic Afghanistan, a country that still lives in the 13th century, and considers apostates candidates for hanging, is a truly stupid idea to paraphrase your own words addressed to me.

The Serbs perps needed and need to go to The Hague because the Serb Courts have a long track record of being institutionally incapable of dealing with them. The key is to punish them, and then punish them some more. The modalities of doing that are secondary. And Hoplite and I both love Santa Claus, in any event I do (and thus you miss the not so subtle point). At least I suspect we loved him when we were very young, and untouched by sin (:)), and thus at least have fond memories, revivified by the experience of our scions.

Like I said, Kosta, this has just turned into a repetition of ground gone over previously, with the added bonus of me condemning what the torbari did to the Serb civilians who fell into their hands in the comment immediately following the one I linked you to back in #25 on this thread.

You're not engaged in a discussion with me, Kosta. You're merely talking without listening - the conversation of the dead referenced by Balkan writers.

I'll take a pass, thanks.