[Rhiannon]

I try. However when we are so nice to our children when they are young, often sets them to that continuing expectation when the behavior does not warrant such kindness. I am trying to get thru to my son that he is reaching the limit of goodwill. That if he asks me for something he better behave and speak better all the time otherwise the answer will be no.In otherwords, making him aware that his behavior and rudeness has consequences.

I know that this is a phase and we will grow past it. Just the young man's teterone and I am God complex. They think they don't have to do what you say and will speak back. Then get all upset when you dare to correct them and withdraw priveledges. Does not make a serene household. But with consistentancy, even the toughest mind will learn good manners are necessary, even to parents.

[ConservativeStLouisGuy]

I know that this is a phase and we will grow past it. Just the young man's teterone and I am God complex. They think they don't have to do what you say and will speak back. Then get all upset when you dare to correct them and withdraw priveledges. Does not make a serene household. But with consistentancy, even the toughest mind will learn good manners are necessary, even to parents.

I went through the same phase when I was younger too -- I believe all kids and adolescents do...

You know, even those families where the whole family goes to church and all appears well (from the uneducated outside observer)....well....there is always something that we don't know about those situations too....it goes without saying that there are always "black sheep" in families that we just don't either see or hear about....everyone/everyone person/every parent has their crosses in life....and that is why they are called "crosses" -- as they gentle bear them as Christ bore our cross for our sins...