[SS Guy]

That formula works for surface ships.

Correct, I did forget to state that was for surface craft only. Exceeding waterline lenght is thought of as a "why" to the disapearence of a number of the clipper ships with thier huge sail area compaired to waterline and slow response to shortening sail when things got nasty. Simply put, they just drove themselves under by going too fast.

We had a plankowner from Enterprise that was also a plankowner on us, (a 593/4 class boat), who spilled the beans about how fast they went on thier full wide open throttle speed run. (I'm not going to tell ya but 35 knots wasn't it) I saw the pictures he took off the fantail. Needless to say I dropped my jaw when I saw the wake. It was level with the flight deck!

Subs have now returned to the jobs the Navy first restricted them to pre WW II. The Navy never did like it that subs were lone wolves.

Mind yer bubble...

SS Guy

[WildTurkey]

We had a plankowner from Enterprise that was also a plankowner on us, (a 593/4 class boat), who spilled the beans about how fast they went on thier full wide open throttle speed run. (I'm not going to tell ya but 35 knots wasn't it) I saw the pictures he took off the fantail. Needless to say I dropped my jaw when I saw the wake. It was level with the flight deck!

Uh, I think someone was pulling your leg. CVAN 65 1973/1974 Nuke/Elevators and Catapults.

[WildTurkey]

We had a plankowner from Enterprise that was also a plankowner on us, (a 593/4 class boat), who spilled the beans about how fast they went on thier full wide open throttle speed run.

Based on the "photo" you described, you might want to consider that he was spilling more than beans.

[WildTurkey]

The Navy never did like it that subs were lone wolves.

Interesting. We never did like to be restricted to a carrier groups. Much preferred to be a "lone wolf" out prowling and protecting as needed.

[WildTurkey]

Correct, I did forget to state that was for surface craft only. Exceeding waterline lenght is thought of as a "why" to the disapearence of a number of the clipper ships with thier huge sail area compaired to waterline and slow response to shortening sail when things got nasty. Simply put, they just drove themselves under by going too fast.

The "watherlength" bowwave theory show that the boat "sinks" into the trough and has a large wave crest to push before it can exceed that speed limit. As you said it is very hard to do so. I would not think that would be the cause.

[WildTurkey]

(I'm not going to tell ya but 35 knots wasn't it) I saw the pictures he took off the fantail. Needless to say I dropped my jaw when I saw the wake. It was level with the flight deck!

Here are a couple of photos. Maybe you were shown a shot taken from the the open area BELOW the fantail during a turn. Notice the flat out photo doesn't indicate a large rooster tail.

Enterprise Flat Out

Enterprise in a Turn Kicking Spray