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Nuclear Submarine Runs Aground South of Guam
The Associated Press ^ | Jan 8, 2005 | The Associated Press

Posted on 01/08/2005 3:19:47 AM PST by Jet Jaguar

HONOLULU (AP) - A nuclear submarine ran aground about 350 miles south of Guam, injuring several sailors, one of them critically, the Navy said.

There were no reports of damage to the USS San Francisco's reactor plant, which was operating normally, the Navy said.

Jon Yoshishige, a spokesman for the U.S. Pacific Fleet based at Pearl Harbor, said the Friday afternoon incident is under investigation and the 360-foot submarine was headed back to its home port in Guam.

Details on the sailors' injuries were not immediately available. The sub has a crew of 137, officials said.

Military and Coast Guard aircraft from Guam were en route to monitor the submarine and assist if needed, the Navy said.

Guam is a U.S. territory about 3,700 miles southwest of Hawaii.

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On the Net:

U.S. Pacific Fleet: http://www.cpf.navy.mil

AP-ES-01-08-05 0343EST


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: guam; shipwreck; silentservice; ssn711; submarine; usn; usssanfrancisco
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Tonk, ping to #215. Prayers needed for Zack and his crewmates.


281 posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:22 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good" HRC 6/28/2004)
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To: judicial meanz; submarinerswife; PogySailor; chasio649; gobucks; Bottom_Gun
So, you say you're a submariner, eh?


282 posted on 01/08/2005 7:41:59 AM PST by WSGilcrest
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To: judicial meanz
Does Womg Wei have a brother? ;>)

Chinese boats are getting more aggressive out there.

283 posted on 01/08/2005 7:42:13 AM PST by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei !)
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To: NonValueAdded
Or maybe a couple of divers could get out and push. :)

And we have a winner!
284 posted on 01/08/2005 7:42:47 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: Doohickey
Okay, who wants on the Steely-eyed killers of the deep ping list?

I don't know if I qualify. Although I've been on a submarine several times, it was always in Anaheim, California, and while waiting my turn in line, I'm not sure the sub ever actually submerged.

285 posted on 01/08/2005 7:43:18 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: WSGilcrest

Wasn't stationed there...but that is close to mare island....right?


286 posted on 01/08/2005 7:43:37 AM PST by chasio649
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To: HipShot

My thought was CO, NAV, OOD, QMOW and CDO if one was stationed - toast. But you're right, there's not enough info to speculate. Was the boat within her moving haven? Was the piloting party stationed? Correct charts used and updated? Fixes properly entered? Was the ESGN the master compass, or was there some casualty that forced them to use the Mk 19 or Mk 27? Who knows, but it'll be interesting to find out.


287 posted on 01/08/2005 7:43:57 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: WSGilcrest

I remember that dance!

Thanks for the memories!


288 posted on 01/08/2005 7:43:59 AM PST by judicial meanz
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To: WSGilcrest

Never been there, never heard of it. Where did you say Vallejo was again?


289 posted on 01/08/2005 7:44:08 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: WSGilcrest

My Husband knows about the Black Angus in Puerto Rico.....


290 posted on 01/08/2005 7:44:24 AM PST by submarinerswife
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To: Dog Gone

If you're interested, you're in!


291 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:12 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: submarinerswife

uhhhhhhhh...uhhhhhh....(butthead voice)


292 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:21 AM PST by chasio649
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To: chasio649

Vallejo, yeah.


293 posted on 01/08/2005 7:45:47 AM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.”)
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To: Straight Vermonter

High tide may have helped float the boat out!


294 posted on 01/08/2005 7:46:29 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: Doohickey

I'm interested, but don't expect any informed or intelligent responses from me. I'll be there to learn.


295 posted on 01/08/2005 7:47:06 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Doohickey

Please add me to your pinglist. Thanks.


296 posted on 01/08/2005 7:49:31 AM PST by HipShot ("Remember the first rule of gunfighting... have a gun." --Colonel Jeff Cooper)
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To: seamole
A ship's captain will always lose his job if his ship runs aground or sinks, for whatever reason. He will never be rehired as captain, either. This isn't just the Navy, it's a maritime tradition going back centuries.

That isn't true at all, and never has been. Depends upon the board of inquiry finding. Now, when groundings are investigated you almost always find that the cause was poor training, inattention to the current situation, and failure to follow standard procedures - all of which land the CO in the soup. But, if on a dark and stormy night in the middle of nowhere, on an operation that precluded operating a depth finder, the CO ran into an uncharted sea-mount, he would likely be exononerated. THAT, however, is never how it turns out.

297 posted on 01/08/2005 7:49:40 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
One point I haven't seen mentioned (re: whether somebody gets relieved of duty) involves the following:

(1) Our submarines are among our absolute best stealthy war-readiness and threat-making assets. Secrecy of position is vital if at all possible. The assets are worth a billion so, never mind the defense capability cost.

(2) When a boat runs aground, it makes a lot of noise: everybody listening now knows where to find it.

So unless there's a genuiinely exceptional extenuating circumstance, the captain will be supervising a desk back at Pearl soon.

298 posted on 01/08/2005 7:49:52 AM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: sam_paine; IMRight; Larry Lucido
Well, actually, in some cases you can unload a ship a get a little "up" option.....

I agree. I thought it was funny that until IMRight's post number #43 no one could figure this out. Just blowing ballast on the sub would raise it unless there was catastrophic damage.

299 posted on 01/08/2005 7:50:04 AM PST by raybbr
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The USS San Francisco ( SSN-711).

300 posted on 01/08/2005 7:51:36 AM PST by judicial meanz
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