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CA: Perata wants more state control
Oakland Tribune ^ | 1/7/05 | Steve Geissinger

Posted on 01/07/2005 10:37:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: William Creel

The planners say they are not repeating the mistakes, because they are adding architectural amenities like porches, colonades and so forth. You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.


21 posted on 01/07/2005 11:23:31 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: RJL

Guess what! In the Corralitos Community Plan, for Santa Cruz County, CA, the planners have identified seismic hazard areas and want to "make people in those areas safer". Which in their minds is to MOVE THEM OUT. You see, most of the town of Corralitos is in a seismic hazard area. They want to move people out so the racoons don't have to look at electric lights or worry about crossing a street that has a car in it.


22 posted on 01/07/2005 11:27:09 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: William Creel
Wasn't high-density affordable housing deemed a fairlure? I remember that they demolished almost all of them in 1990s. Why repeat the mistakes of the past?

You and I just aren't enlightened enough to understand all this.

Perata says "I will guarantee you that if there was any effort to provide affordable housing, through higher density, there would be a (housing) rush like you wouldn't believe," he said.

23 posted on 01/07/2005 11:28:18 PM PST by RJL
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To: farmfriend; NormsRevenge

Thanks....another Barf idea from a corrupt Californian politician...


24 posted on 01/07/2005 11:30:42 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: RJL

What's interesting about this is, San Francisco, super liberal city in the Bay Area, are having MAJOR problems trying to get high density housing due to local NIMBYs. What Perata proposing might actually be going against SF NIMBY Liberal Elites who don't want more skyscrapers!


25 posted on 01/07/2005 11:31:36 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry will be inaugurated January 20th! I BELIEVE!!! [DUmmie taken away in a straight jacket])
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To: hedgetrimmer
Guess what! In the Corralitos Community Plan, for Santa Cruz County, CA, the planners have identified seismic hazard areas and want to "make people in those areas safer". Which in their minds is to MOVE THEM OUT.

It look's like I'm becoming a regular sustainable, progressive kinda guy!

It's fun making up rules for the liberals as they constantly try to regulate us.

26 posted on 01/07/2005 11:34:34 PM PST by RJL
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To: hedgetrimmer
The planners say they are not repeating the mistakes, because they are adding architectural amenities like porches, colonades and so forth. You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.

That reminds me, if you go to that skyscraper link to the Russian forum...a lot of the new 'housing' skyscrapers for cities like Moscow and so forth...look like updated versions of the 'Commieblocks' they have everywhere. Sure, they look nicer (and probably safer due to current construction material) but they are still massive commie era apartments.

27 posted on 01/07/2005 11:35:38 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry will be inaugurated January 20th! I BELIEVE!!! [DUmmie taken away in a straight jacket])
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To: Simmy2.5

The Sierra Club and the Environmental Defense fund are based in the bay area. They are actively lobbying to have the Hetch Hetchy reservoir destroyed because the subsequent lack of water and power for the SF peninsula would limit growth. They are the NIMBYs because they don't want to see any more growth in SF-- they are getting a dose of their own medicine with the wrecked freeways, difficult commutes and high housing prices.


28 posted on 01/07/2005 11:35:48 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: RJL

Maybe we should get the racoons dark glasses so the lights don't bother them so much.


29 posted on 01/07/2005 11:38:18 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
from a corrupt Californian politician

Aren't they all?

30 posted on 01/07/2005 11:45:28 PM PST by farmfriend ( Congratulation. You are everything we've come to expect from years of government training.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Maybe we should get the raccoons dark glasses so the lights don't bother them so much.

LOL... Yeah, a special sunglasses tax in Hollywood to pay for them.

I think you're becoming a regular sustainable, progressive kinda guy too!

31 posted on 01/07/2005 11:45:39 PM PST by RJL
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!!


32 posted on 01/08/2005 3:00:38 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: NormsRevenge
"Radical, radical, radical..."

So whatever happened to the studies of laboratory rats in "high density housing" (i.e.: the "population sink")? California lawmakers set great store by lab rats when it comes to chemicals, so why not housing?

33 posted on 01/08/2005 4:04:03 AM PST by niteowl77 (Socialist: someone who can't find his ass despite using other peoples' hands in addition to his own.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Many years ago, I met Sunne McPeak. All things aside; her planning efforts were pretty good back then.


34 posted on 01/08/2005 6:05:46 AM PST by Alia
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To: Alia; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; NormsRevenge; ElkGroveDan; farmfriend; calcowgirl; ...
"her planning efforts were pretty good back then."

Yup! She planned the SillyCon Valley's Dot.Commie boom and inevitable bust!!!

I don't find her presence the least bit reassuring on the Schwarzenegger largely leftist team of Demonicrat appointees!!!

35 posted on 01/08/2005 7:35:54 AM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophist sophistication...)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Sounds almost like some sort of "manifesto" struggling to recover from "the ash-heap of history!"

36 posted on 01/08/2005 7:50:54 AM PST by SierraWasp (Moderates, are just too chicken to commit to any ideal!!! They prefer sophist sophistication...)
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To: SierraWasp
It ain't struggling my friend. Our California politicians have put it on the fast track to the heart of our cities so it is fully resurrected before the citizens of California find out what hit 'em
37 posted on 01/08/2005 9:09:41 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Exactly right!

We stopped their power plant plan though!


38 posted on 01/08/2005 10:00:22 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: farmfriend; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge; edskid

FYI,on KSCO radio, http://www.ksco.com/ there will be a show at noon on the smart growth fraud with Dr. Michael Coffman.

If you go to the radio station page you can listen live.


39 posted on 01/08/2005 10:10:03 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
The growth they say they are against is new single family homes. They are not against cramming more people into less space to make a bucket load of money on the land they have artificially constrained.
40 posted on 01/08/2005 10:56:59 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are really stupid.)
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